[meteorite-list] "Meteorite" Sculpture by Katie Paterson

From: cdtucson at cox.net <cdtucson_at_meteoritecentral.com>
Date: Wed, 6 Aug 2014 14:00:08 -0400
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Daniel, Very well put. As an Art dealer since 1989 I could not agree more. A reproduction is not art. It is in the trade what we consider "decorative". Only.
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Carl
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---- Daniel Noyes via Meteorite-list <meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com> wrote: 
> Hi Graham, Peter and All,
>  
> I would agree that art can be a means to challenge existing concepts and
> perceptions. I think the rub in this instance is the recasting of the
> meteorite, nature's art, into its own image; a human generated meteorite
> clone so to speak. To re-create it into something more removed from
> itself would stretch the creative boundary. 
> If one were to melt down an original Remington bronze sculpture and
> recast it as itself, does that really challenge artistic expression, and
> how is that different that the cheap "after" versions that one can buy
> that are imitations of the Remington original? Given the choice between
> an original work of art and its imitation, I'll take the original every
> time. I'm not saying there isn't some value in what Katie did, but I
> think the genuine meteorite would be more worthy of a trip to the space
> station...
>  
> Best regards,
> Daniel   
> 
> Daniel Noyes
> Genuine Moon & Mars Meteorite Rocks
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> Date: Tue, 5 Aug 2014 20:40:22 +0100
> From: Graham Ensor <graham.ensor at gmail.com>
> To: Peter Davidson <P.Davidson at nms.ac.uk>
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> Hi Peter/allAs an artist myself working on more unusual projects with
> the Arts Council trying to find new ways of expressing ideas...trying
> to stretch the boundaries and asking "what is art?"...etc I find this
> an interesting topic...I'm all for "art" doing what you say...but have
> a slight conflict here, being a meteorite collector and using much of
> what I know and see in meteoritics as inspiration for some of my own
> projects....there are so many at the moment just making/doing "art" to
> shock...and I don't really think that that is enough personally....and
> to be honest I'm not sure what she is doing is really very
> original...many artists have destroyed and rebuilt objects as them
> selves in the past in various ways....to me she is not making people
> think about the wonder of the object, where it comes from etc...it's
> more about herself....and her practice.
> 
> Now if she had prepared the meteorite in such a way to show off it's
> wonder, or even just exhibited it in a a gallery as is...rather than
> in a museum...then that would have asked far more questions about what
> art is, or what the object means...the recasting is not so much about
> the object...it is far more about the process and her own
> practice....I feel she has said far less by recasting it....but I
> suppose that's what art is about....it's more about the questions that
> a piece is asking than the answer.
> 
> Not sure what destroying something and remaking it in it's own image
> and then sending it back to whence it came (partly) is really
> saying.....only those who are wise about meteorites actually
> understand what aspects of the object she has destroyed....most of the
> general public/other artists etc will see the object as unchanged!
> 
> Graham
> 
> On Tue, Aug 5, 2014 at 3:35 PM, Peter Davidson via Meteorite-list
> <meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com> wrote:
> > Dear Lads and Lassies
> >
> > Thank you to those who replied to the e-mail I sent about the "meteorite" sculpture by Katie Paterson which has been sent into space. To be honest I didn't expect a positive response and that is exactly what I got. I attended a talk by Katie last Saturday (2nd August) and I actually got to handle several of the meteorites she has recast. An odd and slightly disconcerting experience I thought. We got to chatting about possible future collaborations but it remains to be seen what that might actually turn out to mean.
> >
> > I have always believed that it one of the purposes of art (among many other things) to challenge, shock and discomfort people and ideas by presenting the familiar in a new and unfamiliar way - to make people rethink their ideas and to challenge them to take stock of their old values. This particular project does seem to have raised a few eyebrows and rattled a few cages. I am mulling over the idea of asking Katie if I could present these items at Ensisheim one year.
> >
> > Cheers
> >
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