[meteorite-list] Accepting Inquiries From AccreditedScientificor Educational Institutions...

From: Ed Deckert <edeckert_at_meteoritecentral.com>
Date: Sun, 7 Jun 2015 17:34:04 -0400
Message-ID: <E38DE4CFB26E4C5FA2EEEC7DEF28D96B_at_MAINPC>

Amen to that, John!

Ed D

----- Original Message -----
From: "John Lutzon" <jl at lutzon.com>
To: "Ed Deckert" <edeckert at triad.rr.com>
Cc: <meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com>
Sent: Sunday, June 07, 2015 5:29 PM
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Accepting Inquiries From
AccreditedScientificor Educational Institutions...


>
> I agree Ed, but may I add the following: ?
>
> All sales and discussions of Meteorites is highly encouraged.
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Ed Deckert via Meteorite-list"
> <meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com>
> To: "Sterling K. Webb" <sterling_k_webb at sbcglobal.net>; "'Galactic Stone &
> Ironworks'" <meteoritemike at gmail.com>;
> <meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com>
> Sent: Sunday, June 07, 2015 5:06 PM
> Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Accepting Inquiries From
> AccreditedScientificor Educational Institutions...
>
>
>
> Sales of all sentences, commas, periods, semi-colons and all other
> punctuation marks are hereby suspended until further notice.
>
> Ed D
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Sterling K. Webb via Meteorite-list"
> <meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com>
> To: "'Galactic Stone & Ironworks'" <meteoritemike at gmail.com>;
> <meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com>
> Sent: Sunday, June 07, 2015 3:42 PM
> Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Accepting Inquiries From Accredited
> Scientificor Educational Institutions...
>
>
>> You are severely underpricing your
>> punctuation. Really good comma's
>> are worth at least two bucks a pair. A
>> proper semi-colon should be $1.00 to
>> $1.50. You should work up a detailed
>> price list...
>>
>> Sterling Webb
>> --------------------------------------
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Meteorite-list [mailto:meteorite-list-bounces at meteoritecentral.com]
>> On
>> Behalf Of Galactic Stone & Ironworks via Meteorite-list
>> Sent: Sunday, June 07, 2015 1:02 PM
>> To: Peter Richards
>> Cc: meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com; Michael Farmer
>> Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Accepting Inquiries From Accredited
>> Scientific
>> or Educational Institutions...
>>
>> I was trying to be genuinely helpful. And now I am reminded why I do not
>> reply to these kind of inquiries. The messenger always gets shot.
>> I tried in good faith to be helpful to you and you start launching
>> accusations. The rest of your replies are too incomprehensible or
>> paranoid
>> to warrant a reply.
>>
>> This is my last reply on this matter. Any further replies will cost you
>> $20
>> per sentence with punctuation being an extra .25 cents per period or
>> comma.
>> Payment in advance only.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> -------------------------------------------------------------
>> Web - http://www.galactic-stone.com
>> Facebook - http://www.facebook.com/galacticstone
>> Twitter - http://twitter.com/galacticstone Pinterest -
>> http://pinterest.com/galacticstone
>> -------------------------------------------------------------
>>
>> On 6/7/15, Peter Richards <pedrichards at gmail.com> wrote:
>>> Mike, I think your approach is great for novices. I know that not only
>>> you but many professional meteoricists have your "hardline", barely
>>> logical, if so, preconceived, "paper form" reply, when, of course, it
>>> is an odd inheritor of the mantle of people who once said meteorites
>>> did not even exist, which I believe Geoff Notkin has reported included
>>> the heads of the Catholic church at one point historically. I get that
>>> scientists, like you seem to me to, might prefer to discredit the
>>> possibility than be honest, yet, again, it is what it is. My previous
>>> statements are what they are. You can call them what you want, at the
>>> behest of yourself or your friends or whoever motivates you to do what
>>> you do. Of course, oddly enough, you seemingly disingenuous people are
>>> leaning into this, and seem prepared to throw your all at me in such a
>>> muckracking match, in lieu of the professionals. Really, I have some
>>> emails from them, so it is the same. You all are what you are, the
>>> rock is what it is (as previously described), and I am what I am, and
>>> maybe I should have not been provoked by your message, and ignored it,
>>> but, I have already written this and the "send" button is in sight, so
>>> do not fight. I know how great you all are. I have explained what you
>>> are doing. I don't know why. It does protect your financial interests,
>>> and my writing the truth, and not being cowed by past "infidelities"
>>> is my attempt to protect my own.
>>> cordially,
>>> Peter
>>> P.S. There are no granite meteorites recognized/officially-known and
>>> would it not be bizarre if some people had a bias towards wanting it
>>> to stay that way?
>>>
>>> On Sun, Jun 7, 2015 at 11:09 AM, Galactic Stone & Ironworks
>>> <meteoritemike at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> Hi Peter,
>>>>
>>>> It's hard to tell from the photos, but I do not see any outward signs
>>>> that would suggest these rocks might be meteorites. I do not see any
>>>> fusion crust, and what I do see is probably desert varnish. Desert
>>>> varnish forms on all rocks, not just meteorites.
>>>>
>>>> Have you done a streak test or specific gravity test? These are both
>>>> low-tech tests that anybody can use to narrow down the range of
>>>> possibilities. If the rocks fails the streak test, it's not a
>>>> meteorite. If the rock has a specific gravity that falls outside the
>>>> range for stony meteorites, then it's not a meteorite.
>>>>
>>>> You will find that most "accredited" institutions that work with
>>>> meteorites do not accept unsolicited samples because of the sheer
>>>> volume of rocks clogging the system waiting for analysis.
>>>>
>>>> My advice is to use the streak and specific gravity tests to help
>>>> rule in/out the possibility of the stones being meteoritic or
>> terrestrial.
>>>> If the rocks pass these tests, then try cutting a window into one of
>>>> them and see if there are any chondrules or metal flecks.
>>>>
>>>> Best regards,
>>>>
>>>> MikeG
>>>>
>>>> PS - there are no granite meteorites, so if the rock is "granite"
>>>> then it is not a meteorite.
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> -------------------------------------------------------------
>>>> Web - http://www.galactic-stone.com
>>>> Facebook - http://www.facebook.com/galacticstone
>>>> Twitter - http://twitter.com/galacticstone Pinterest -
>>>> http://pinterest.com/galacticstone
>>>> -------------------------------------------------------------
>>>>
>>>> On 6/7/15, Peter Richards via Meteorite-list
>>>> <meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com> wrote:
>>>>> Hello Michael, no, but I will pass the Actlabs information on to any
>>>>> representatives of accredited institutions who inquire. The stone is
>>>>> a granite, and the photos may not tell the story of the crust
>>>>> glaringly, but it is apparently what is there, for those of us (me
>>>>> only right
>>>>> now) who have the privilege of holding the stone. Thank you for the
>>>>> "bump" anyway, although, of course, I am wondering what your
>>>>> intentions were. Anyway, again, you use official scale cubes, and
>>>>> these animal sculptures are all I have right now, but I understand
>>>>> that it is less than fully ideal, and, again, this is not a
>>>>> commercial sale, so to Mr. Farmer's defence, he is not lowering the
>>>>> price for some associate of his to buy. Yes, I am a real person and
>>>>> an American citizen, and the rock is as it was described, and I am
>>>>> sorry that some people want to tell me it is what sort of terrestrial
>> rock by chance?
>>>>> God knows. Keep looking if interested, and I will try to improve the
>>>>> photos, but there is perhaps adequate visual information already.
>>>>> regards,
>>>>> Peter
>>>>>
>>>>> On Sat, Jun 6, 2015 at 11:08 PM, Michael Farmer
>>>>> <mike at meteoriteguy.com>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>> What kind of Nigerian scam attempt is this email? Trying to sell
>>>>>> garbage trinkets?
>>>>>> A,asking what makes it on the list these days.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Sent from my iPad
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Jun 6, 2015, at 8:48 PM, Peter Richards via Meteorite-list
>>>>>>> <meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> To whom it may concern, I am offering this link, for the benefit
>>>>>>> of representatives of accredited educational and scientific
>>>>>>> institutions, displaying a stone which an Actlabs (of Lancaster,
>>>>>>> Ontario) report has identified to me as a granite, which, is
>>>>>>> almost definitely meteoritic, which I say due to the distinct
>>>>>>> coating, and its shape, given that I have not shaped or coated
>>>>>>> this stone and that these traits appear in no way artificial. I
>>>>>>> can only guess what value to anyone denying that this could be a
>>>>>>> meteorite is, but I will have to preclude such proclamations by
>>>>>>> reminding people that, unless I have truly missed something, there
>>>>>>> is less evidence to support such a claim than there is to support my
>> above-made claim.
>>>>>>> Here is a link to a photo album, please see first photo
>>>>>>> (sculptures are for scale reference, btw):
>>>>>>> http://www.ipernity.com/doc/312101/album/793480
>>>>>>> I am gauging interest alone here, I do not suppose this counts as
>>>>>>> an ad, for the purposes are less than commercial although I, of
>>>>>>> course, would like to determine if it is legal for any grants, or
>>>>>>> such things, to be given by any willing recipients of any material
>>>>>>> I make available, to me, as a token of gratitude, to compensate
>>>>>>> for my exertions while acquiring this, and to help me better
>>>>>>> conserve what I have collected, in case there is indeed scientific
>>>>>>> value belonging to this collection of mine, and, it is ultimately
>>>>>>> up to Art whether or not this counts as an advertisement technically
>> speaking.
>>>>>>> Promptness will be much appreciated and rewarded where possible.
>>>>>>> Once more, this is for accredited educational or scientific
>>>>>>> institutions. I will hear of interest from outside the U.S., but
>>>>>>> the state department's approval will be needed before anything is
>>>>>>> provided to such institutions, as according to law.
>>>>>>> Thank you and kindest regards to all, Peter E. D. Richards
>>>>>>> currently of Chicago, IL
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