[meteorite-list] Stability of Sericho (Habaswein)

From: Ruben Garcia <rubengarcia85382_at_meteoritecentral.com>
Date: Mon, 4 Dec 2017 20:11:23 -0700
Message-ID: <CAJet4mPKGP1UTTKqOaYNmtic8bGKi3Y4sGUrn3Y+jqBv_RO+Xg_at_mail.gmail.com>

Rock on Mr Haag, awesome to see you post on the met-list again!



On Mon, Dec 4, 2017 at 7:49 PM, Adam Hupe via Meteorite-list
<meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com> wrote:
> It is interesting how quickly the price has dropped on this Pallasite, even
> in Japan where it was being dumped over the weekend. Now that the show has
> ended, it will be interesting what price it brings in Tucson.
>
> I wouldn't pay 20 cents a gram for this material after hearing collector
> reports, even with a lifetime rust-free guarantee.
>
> Adam
>
>
>
>
> On 12/4/2017 6:39 PM, Michael Farmer wrote:
>>
>> Adam. Give me a break. Sorry you are left behind on this one. But leaving
>> your sofa is required.
>> We are all having a great laugh at this post in Japan. I can?t recall you
>> ever owning or selling a pallasite. Please enlighten us as to your
>> experience.
>> Michael Farmer
>>
>>
>>> On Dec 5, 2017, at 11:31 AM, Rob Wesel via Meteorite-list
>>> <meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> Oops, Chevy
>>>
>>>
>>> https://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_odkw=1955+ford&LH_PrefLoc=2&_sc=1&_sop=3&_sticky=1&_trkparms=65%253A16%257C66%253A4%257C39%253A1&_osacat=0&_ipg=200&_from=R40&_trksid=p2045573.m570.l1313.TR12.TRC2.A0.H0.X1955+chevy.TRS0&_nkw=1955+chevy&_sacat=0
>>>
>>> Rob
>>> --------------------------------------------------
>>> From: "Adam Hupe via Meteorite-list"
>>> <meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com>
>>> Sent: Monday, December 04, 2017 5:58 PM
>>> To: "metlist" <meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com>
>>> Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Stability of Sericho (Habaswein)
>>>
>>>> The fact that dealers are applying sealants and anti-rust coatings to
>>>> this Pallasite, like an old 55 Chevy from the East Coast, indicates that
>>>> Sericho (Habaswein) is indeed a ruster. I received several reports today of
>>>> rusticles, green goo, chemical smells, dislodged crystals and popping noises
>>>> coming from specimens. Maybe it should be upgraded from ruster to serious
>>>> ruster.
>>>>
>>>> Stable Pallasites like Esquel do not require any special treatment other
>>>> than avoiding chlorinated water during preparation, proper high-grade
>>>> polishing and low humidity storage/display.
>>>>
>>>> I avoid rusters at all costs,
>>>>
>>>> Adam
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> On 12/4/2017 10:40 AM, Bigjohn Shea wrote:
>>>>> I got my sealed full slice of Habaswein from Rob many months ago and
>>>>> don't see a lick of rusting on it. Sealant appears to be working great. :-D
>>>>>
>>>>> If I were in the market for a specimen, I'd listen to the guy who
>>>>> actually has experience working with the meteorite in question.
>>>>>
>>>>> Additionally,
>>>>> Large multi-kg specimens of Habaswein do sell in the 0.5$/g range.
>>>>> Expertly prepared slices do not. They sell for 8-10 times that price. That
>>>>> distinction needs to be made.
>>>>>
>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>> John A. Shea, MD
>>>>> IMCA 3295
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Sent using the mail.com mail app
>>>>>
>>>>>> On 12/4/17 at 11:14 AM, Adam Hupe via Meteorite-list wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> My advice is to stay away from any sliced pieces with a lacquer or
>>>>>> clear-coat surface. It is sign that shortcuts were taken in its
>>>>>> preparation. Proper polishing reduces the surface area on cut pieces
>>>>>> of
>>>>>> any meteorite aiding in the prevention of "lawrencite disease." Not
>>>>>> only that, these coatings will accelerate the deterioration process by
>>>>>> trapping moisture. It is important to store this material in low
>>>>>> humidity environments with plenty of air circulation. Also, exposure
>>>>>> to
>>>>>> direct sunlight will cause the crystals to darken with time.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> A lot of collectors are in the wait and see mode since there are
>>>>>> several
>>>>>> metric tons of this material available. The lowest price I have seen
>>>>>> was
>>>>>> around 46 cents a gram for a recently sold piece on eBay.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Happy Collecting,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Adam
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 12/2/2017 5:14 AM, Andrey via Meteorite-list wrote:
>>>>>>> Hello Dear List Members,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Just a small question to new Sericho (was Habaswein) Kenya pallasite
>>>>>>> owners, dealers, cutters: how stable is it?
>>>>>>> From my own experience I noticed its extreme degree of instability,
>>>>>>> similar to Admire or even more... Is this unlucky piece, just
>>>>>>> fortuity
>>>>>>> or is it really so?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Thanks in advance for your answers,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Andrey,
>>>>>>> IMCA#6240
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
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