[meteorite-list] Park Forest - Round Two

From: Adam Hupe <adamhupe_at_meteoritecentral.com>
Date: Thu Apr 22 10:10:04 2004
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Mike,

I freely admitted we offered that much for a stone in my posting called =
"Park Forest - The pulling of teeth". We thought this house smasher =
(one of three) was still available and only offered this much because it =
was a confirmed house hammer we wanted for our collection. This bid =
also included everything it hit, the other half of the picture. You =
were not present when we made this offer, only afterwards. You stated =
to list you would never sell the specimen and now you have offered it to =
two dealers for $25,000.00, a $13,000.00 profit. You have also been =
offering hammer stones without affidavits from the finders, something I =
would rather not get into. =20

All the Best,

Adam Hupe


  ----- Original Message -----=20
  From: Michael Farmer=20
  To: Adam Hupe ; meteorite-list_at_meteoritecentral.com=20
  Sent: Sunday, April 06, 2003 7:18 PM
  Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Park Forest - Round Two


  Adam, good lord, after you and AL Lang lectured me about paying too =
much, you tried to snag my stone by offering $15000 for it 12 hours =
later! the Highest price offered in Park Forest. So indeed, you did =
contribute to the high prices, so please don't act like you did'nt.=20
  Mike Farmer
    ----- Original Message -----=20
    From: Adam Hupe=20
    To: meteorite-list_at_meteoritecentral.com=20
    Sent: Sunday, April 06, 2003 10:39 AM
    Subject: [meteorite-list] Park Forest - Round Two


    Dear List,

    Here we go again! I am personally glad to be home after spending =
five intense days in the so-called "Urban Strewnfield". For those of =
you who were not able to go you did not miss much. The weather was =
horrible, most of the neighborhood was rough and the greed was amazing. =

    =20
    My brother, Greg arrived yesterday and met up with Al Lang to pick =
up an entire bedroom that had been hammered by one of these stones. We =
will reconstruct the bedroom with the ceiling that had two holes punched =
in it, the venetian blinds that were split down the center, a metal =
windowsill with a huge impact crater and a mirror that was shattered, =
all hit by the same meteorite that thankfully missed a boy by inches as =
he was sleeping. This collection will be displayed proudly next to the =
Peekskill car in a private museum. We plan on possibly displaying the =
collection at the Tucson show next year if there is enough interest. We =
acquired several other impacted items from all over the strewn field and =
will integrate them into another interpretive display. This represents =
the world's largest collection of man-made objects impacted by =
meteorites. We feel it is important to preserve these historical items =
for future generations to enjoy. =20
    =20
    On another note:
    Why couldn't the meteorite have landed somewhere in a rural area?, =
maybe next time. I do not believe the prices would have been so high if =
the stones where recovered by farmers and ranch-hands. Word spread like =
wild fire in the Park Forest neighborhood about prices being realized =
for stones that hit things. These street-smart finders then played a =
lot of dealers and collectors in the field for as much money as they =
could get and now everybody is paying the price. You can blame dealers =
who lacked the patience to negotiate better prices and manage the =
situation in a professional manner for these high prices. Instead money =
was thrown around exciting the neighborhood into a feeding frenzy. I =
owned up to my part in this whole thing with a post called "Park Forest =
- the pulling of teeth". If I contributed in anyway to the high prices, =
I apologize. I admit there were a few times when we paid more than we =
should have.=20
    =20

    Wishing everybody well,
    =20
    Adam Hupe
    IMCA 2185
    =20
     =20

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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Mike,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I freely admitted we offered that much =
for a stone=20
in my posting called "Park Forest - The pulling of teeth".&nbsp; We =
thought this=20
house smasher (one of three) was still available and only offered this =
much=20
because it was a confirmed house hammer&nbsp;we wanted for our =
collection.&nbsp;=20
This bid also included everything it hit, the other half of the=20
picture.&nbsp;&nbsp;You were not present when we made this offer, only=20
afterwards.&nbsp; You stated to list you would never sell the specimen =
and now=20
you have offered it to two dealers for $25,000.00, a $13,000.00 =
profit.&nbsp;=20
You&nbsp;have also been offering hammer stones without affidavits from =
the=20
finders, something I would rather not get into.&nbsp; </FONT></DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>All the Best,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Adam Hupe</FONT></DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
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  <DIV=20
  style=3D"BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: =
black"><B>From:</B>=20
  <A href=3D"mailto:farmerm_at_concentric.net" =
title=3Dfarmerm_at_concentric.net>Michael=20
  Farmer</A> </DIV>
  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A =
href=3D"mailto:adamhupe_at_attbi.com"=20
  title=3Dadamhupe_at_attbi.com>Adam Hupe</A> ; <A=20
  href=3D"mailto:meteorite-list_at_meteoritecentral.com"=20
  =
title=3Dmeteorite-list_at_meteoritecentral.com>meteorite-list@meteoritecentr=
al.com</A>=20
  </DIV>
  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Sunday, April 06, 2003 =
7:18=20
PM</DIV>
  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: [meteorite-list] =
Park Forest=20
  - Round Two</DIV>
  <DIV><BR></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Adam, good lord, after you and AL =
Lang lectured=20
  me about paying too much, you tried to snag my stone by offering =
$15000 for it=20
  12 hours later! the Highest price offered in Park Forest. So indeed, =
you did=20
  contribute to the high prices, so please don't act like you did'nt.=20
  </FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Mike Farmer</FONT></DIV>
  <BLOCKQUOTE dir=3Dltr=20
  style=3D"BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; =
MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; PADDING-RIGHT: 0px">
    <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV>
    <DIV=20
    style=3D"BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: =
black"><B>From:</B>=20
    <A href=3D"mailto:adamhupe_at_attbi.com" =
title=3Dadamhupe_at_attbi.com>Adam Hupe</A>=20
    </DIV>
    <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A=20
    href=3D"mailto:meteorite-list_at_meteoritecentral.com"=20
    =
title=3Dmeteorite-list_at_meteoritecentral.com>meteorite-list@meteoritecentr=
al.com</A>=20
    </DIV>
    <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Sunday, April 06, 2003 =
10:39=20
    AM</DIV>
    <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> [meteorite-list] =
Park Forest -=20
    Round Two</DIV>
    <DIV><BR></DIV>
    <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Dear List,</FONT></DIV>
    <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
    <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Here we go again!&nbsp; I am=20
    personally&nbsp;glad to be&nbsp;home after spending five intense =
days in the=20
    so-called "Urban Strewnfield".&nbsp; For those of you who were not =
able to=20
    go you did not miss much.&nbsp; The weather was horrible, most of =
the=20
    neighborhood was rough and the greed was amazing.&nbsp; =
</FONT></DIV>
    <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
    <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>My brother, Greg arrived yesterday =
and met up=20
    with Al Lang to pick up an entire bedroom that&nbsp;had been =
hammered by one=20
    of these stones.&nbsp;&nbsp;We will reconstruct the bedroom with the =
ceiling=20
    that had two holes&nbsp;punched in it, the venetian blinds&nbsp;that =
were=20
    split down the center, a metal windowsill with a huge impact crater =
and a=20
    mirror that was shattered, all hit by the same meteorite that =
thankfully=20
    missed a boy by inches as he was sleeping.&nbsp; This collection =
will be=20
    displayed proudly next to the Peekskill car in a private =
museum.&nbsp; We=20
    plan on possibly displaying the collection at the Tucson show next =
year if=20
    there is enough interest.&nbsp; We acquired several other impacted =
items=20
    from all over the strewn field and will integrate them into another=20
    interpretive display.&nbsp;This represents the world's largest =
collection of=20
    man-made objects impacted by&nbsp;meteorites.&nbsp;&nbsp;We feel it =
is=20
    important to preserve these historical items for future generations =
to=20
    enjoy.&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; </FONT></DIV>
    <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
    <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>On another note:</FONT></DIV>
    <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Why couldn't the meteorite have =
landed=20
    somewhere in a rural area?, maybe next time.&nbsp; I do not believe =
the=20
    prices would have been so high if the stones where recovered by =
farmers and=20
    ranch-hands.&nbsp; Word spread like wild fire in the Park Forest=20
    neighborhood about prices being realized for stones that hit =
things.&nbsp;=20
    These street-smart finders then played a lot of dealers and =
collectors in=20
    the field for as much money as they could get and now everybody=20
    is&nbsp;paying the price.&nbsp;&nbsp;You can blame dealers who =
lacked the=20
    patience to negotiate better prices and manage the situation in a=20
    professional manner for these high prices.&nbsp;&nbsp;Instead money =
was=20
    thrown around exciting the neighborhood into a feeding frenzy.&nbsp; =

    I&nbsp;owned up to my part in this whole thing with a post called =
"Park=20
    Forest - the pulling of teeth".&nbsp; If I contributed in anyway to =
the high=20
    prices, I apologize.&nbsp; I admit there were a few times when =
we&nbsp;paid=20
    more than we should have.&nbsp;</FONT></DIV>
    <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
    <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
    <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Wishing everybody =
well,</FONT></DIV>
    <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
    <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Adam Hupe</FONT></DIV>
    <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>IMCA 2185</FONT></DIV>
    <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
    <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>&nbsp;=20
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