[meteorite-list] Park Forest - Round Two

From: Michael Farmer <farmerm_at_meteoritecentral.com>
Date: Thu Apr 22 10:10:04 2004
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Adam, dude, you can piss off, To whom might I ask, did I offer that =
stone for sale to? Not a single person. I have not offered it for sale =
so how dare you say that I did.=20
Offering other "hammer stones" without affadavits? Who the hell made you =
god? I don't actually know where you come off trying to take control of =
everything. Oh well. Do as you please not my problem. So I see that you =
feel you can offer what you like for a particular stone but everyone =
else can't.=20
You and your terms. I never knew we called them "hammerstones".=20
Just don't try to preach what you don't practice.=20
Mike Farmer
  ----- Original Message -----=20
  From: Adam Hupe=20
  To: meteorite-list_at_meteoritecentral.com=20
  Sent: Sunday, April 06, 2003 7:31 PM
  Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Park Forest - Round Two


  Mike,

  I freely admitted we offered that much for a stone in my posting =
called "Park Forest - The pulling of teeth". We thought this house =
smasher (one of three) was still available and only offered this much =
because it was a confirmed house hammer we wanted for our collection. =
This bid also included everything it hit, the other half of the picture. =
 You were not present when we made this offer, only afterwards. You =
stated to list you would never sell the specimen and now you have =
offered it to two dealers for $25,000.00, a $13,000.00 profit. You have =
also been offering hammer stones without affidavits from the finders, =
something I would rather not get into. =20

  All the Best,

  Adam Hupe


    ----- Original Message -----=20
    From: Michael Farmer=20
    To: Adam Hupe ; meteorite-list_at_meteoritecentral.com=20
    Sent: Sunday, April 06, 2003 7:18 PM
    Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Park Forest - Round Two


    Adam, good lord, after you and AL Lang lectured me about paying too =
much, you tried to snag my stone by offering $15000 for it 12 hours =
later! the Highest price offered in Park Forest. So indeed, you did =
contribute to the high prices, so please don't act like you did'nt.=20
    Mike Farmer
      ----- Original Message -----=20
      From: Adam Hupe=20
      To: meteorite-list_at_meteoritecentral.com=20
      Sent: Sunday, April 06, 2003 10:39 AM
      Subject: [meteorite-list] Park Forest - Round Two


      Dear List,

      Here we go again! I am personally glad to be home after spending =
five intense days in the so-called "Urban Strewnfield". For those of =
you who were not able to go you did not miss much. The weather was =
horrible, most of the neighborhood was rough and the greed was amazing. =


      My brother, Greg arrived yesterday and met up with Al Lang to pick =
up an entire bedroom that had been hammered by one of these stones. We =
will reconstruct the bedroom with the ceiling that had two holes punched =
in it, the venetian blinds that were split down the center, a metal =
windowsill with a huge impact crater and a mirror that was shattered, =
all hit by the same meteorite that thankfully missed a boy by inches as =
he was sleeping. This collection will be displayed proudly next to the =
Peekskill car in a private museum. We plan on possibly displaying the =
collection at the Tucson show next year if there is enough interest. We =
acquired several other impacted items from all over the strewn field and =
will integrate them into another interpretive display. This represents =
the world's largest collection of man-made objects impacted by =
meteorites. We feel it is important to preserve these historical items =
for future generations to enjoy. =20

      On another note:
      Why couldn't the meteorite have landed somewhere in a rural area?, =
maybe next time. I do not believe the prices would have been so high if =
the stones where recovered by farmers and ranch-hands. Word spread like =
wild fire in the Park Forest neighborhood about prices being realized =
for stones that hit things. These street-smart finders then played a =
lot of dealers and collectors in the field for as much money as they =
could get and now everybody is paying the price. You can blame dealers =
who lacked the patience to negotiate better prices and manage the =
situation in a professional manner for these high prices. Instead money =
was thrown around exciting the neighborhood into a feeding frenzy. I =
owned up to my part in this whole thing with a post called "Park Forest =
- the pulling of teeth". If I contributed in anyway to the high prices, =
I apologize. I admit there were a few times when we paid more than we =
should have.=20


      Wishing everybody well,

      Adam Hupe
      IMCA 2185

       =20

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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Adam, dude, you can piss off, To whom =
might I ask,=20
did I offer that stone for sale to? Not a single person. I have not =
offered it=20
for sale so how dare you say that I did. </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Offering other "hammer stones" without =
affadavits?=20
Who the hell made you god? I don't actually know where you come off =
trying to=20
take control of everything. Oh well. Do as you please not my problem. So =
I see=20
that you feel you can offer what you like for a particular stone but =
everyone=20
else can't. </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>You and your terms. I never knew we =
called them=20
"hammerstones". </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Just don't try to preach what you don't =
practice.=20
</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Mike Farmer</FONT></DIV>
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  style=3D"BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: =
black"><B>From:</B>=20
  <A title=3Dadamhupe_at_attbi.com href=3D"mailto:adamhupe@attbi.com">Adam =
Hupe</A>=20
  </DIV>
  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A=20
  title=3Dmeteorite-list_at_meteoritecentral.com=20
  =
href=3D"mailto:meteorite-list_at_meteoritecentral.com">meteorite-list@meteor=
itecentral.com</A>=20
  </DIV>
  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Sunday, April 06, 2003 =
7:31=20
PM</DIV>
  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: [meteorite-list] =
Park Forest=20
  - Round Two</DIV>
  <DIV><BR></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Mike,</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I freely admitted we offered that =
much for a=20
  stone in my posting called "Park Forest - The pulling of teeth".&nbsp; =
We=20
  thought this house smasher (one of three) was still available and only =
offered=20
  this much because it was a confirmed house hammer&nbsp;we wanted for =
our=20
  collection.&nbsp; This bid also included everything it hit, the other =
half of=20
  the picture.&nbsp;&nbsp;You were not present when we made this offer, =
only=20
  afterwards.&nbsp; You stated to list you would never sell the specimen =
and now=20
  you have offered it to two dealers for $25,000.00, a $13,000.00 =
profit.&nbsp;=20
  You&nbsp;have also been offering hammer stones without affidavits from =
the=20
  finders, something I would rather not get into.&nbsp; </FONT></DIV>
  <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>All the Best,</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Adam Hupe</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
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    style=3D"BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: =
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    <A title=3Dfarmerm_at_concentric.net =
href=3D"mailto:farmerm_at_concentric.net">Michael=20
    Farmer</A> </DIV>
    <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A =
title=3Dadamhupe_at_attbi.com=20
    href=3D"mailto:adamhupe_at_attbi.com">Adam Hupe</A> ; <A=20
    title=3Dmeteorite-list_at_meteoritecentral.com=20
    =
href=3D"mailto:meteorite-list_at_meteoritecentral.com">meteorite-list@meteor=
itecentral.com</A>=20
    </DIV>
    <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Sunday, April 06, 2003 =
7:18=20
    PM</DIV>
    <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: [meteorite-list] =
Park=20
    Forest - Round Two</DIV>
    <DIV><BR></DIV>
    <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Adam, good lord, after you and AL =
Lang lectured=20
    me about paying too much, you tried to snag my stone by offering =
$15000 for=20
    it 12 hours later! the Highest price offered in Park Forest. So =
indeed, you=20
    did contribute to the high prices, so please don't act like you =
did'nt.=20
    </FONT></DIV>
    <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Mike Farmer</FONT></DIV>
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</DIV>
      <DIV=20
      style=3D"BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: =
black"><B>From:</B>=20
      <A title=3Dadamhupe_at_attbi.com =
href=3D"mailto:adamhupe_at_attbi.com">Adam Hupe</A>=20
      </DIV>
      <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A=20
      title=3Dmeteorite-list_at_meteoritecentral.com=20
      =
href=3D"mailto:meteorite-list_at_meteoritecentral.com">meteorite-list@meteor=
itecentral.com</A>=20
      </DIV>
      <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Sunday, April 06, =
2003 10:39=20
      AM</DIV>
      <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> [meteorite-list] =
Park Forest=20
      - Round Two</DIV>
      <DIV><BR></DIV>
      <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Dear List,</FONT></DIV>
      <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
      <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Here we go again!&nbsp; I am=20
      personally&nbsp;glad to be&nbsp;home after spending five intense =
days in=20
      the so-called "Urban Strewnfield".&nbsp; For those of you who were =
not=20
      able to go you did not miss much.&nbsp; The weather was horrible, =
most of=20
      the neighborhood was rough and the greed was amazing.&nbsp; =
</FONT></DIV>
      <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
      <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>My brother, Greg arrived =
yesterday and met up=20
      with Al Lang to pick up an entire bedroom that&nbsp;had been =
hammered by=20
      one of these stones.&nbsp;&nbsp;We will reconstruct the bedroom =
with the=20
      ceiling that had two holes&nbsp;punched in it, the venetian=20
      blinds&nbsp;that were split down the center, a metal windowsill =
with a=20
      huge impact crater and a mirror that was shattered, all hit by the =
same=20
      meteorite that thankfully missed a boy by inches as he was =
sleeping.&nbsp;=20
      This collection will be displayed proudly next to the Peekskill =
car in a=20
      private museum.&nbsp; We plan on possibly displaying the =
collection at the=20
      Tucson show next year if there is enough interest.&nbsp; We =
acquired=20
      several other impacted items from all over the strewn field and =
will=20
      integrate them into another interpretive display.&nbsp;This =
represents the=20
      world's largest collection of man-made objects impacted=20
      by&nbsp;meteorites.&nbsp;&nbsp;We feel it is important to preserve =
these=20
      historical items for future generations to =
enjoy.&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
      </FONT></DIV>
      <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
      <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>On another note:</FONT></DIV>
      <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Why couldn't the meteorite have =
landed=20
      somewhere in a rural area?, maybe next time.&nbsp; I do not =
believe the=20
      prices would have been so high if the stones where recovered by =
farmers=20
      and ranch-hands.&nbsp; Word spread like wild fire in the Park =
Forest=20
      neighborhood about prices being realized for stones that hit =
things.&nbsp;=20
      These street-smart finders then played a lot of dealers and =
collectors in=20
      the field for as much money as they could get and now everybody=20
      is&nbsp;paying the price.&nbsp;&nbsp;You can blame dealers who =
lacked the=20
      patience to negotiate better prices and manage the situation in a=20
      professional manner for these high prices.&nbsp;&nbsp;Instead =
money was=20
      thrown around exciting the neighborhood into a feeding =
frenzy.&nbsp;=20
      I&nbsp;owned up to my part in this whole thing with a post called =
"Park=20
      Forest - the pulling of teeth".&nbsp; If I contributed in anyway =
to the=20
      high prices, I apologize.&nbsp; I admit there were a few times =
when=20
      we&nbsp;paid more than we should have.&nbsp;</FONT></DIV>
      <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
      <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
      <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Wishing everybody =
well,</FONT></DIV>
      <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
      <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Adam Hupe</FONT></DIV>
      <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>IMCA 2185</FONT></DIV>
      <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
      <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>&nbsp;=20
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