[meteorite-list] Lost Dog.

From: Howard Wu <freewu2000_at_meteoritecentral.com>
Date: Thu Apr 22 10:16:29 2004
Message-ID: <20030806170343.54000.qmail_at_web9301.mail.yahoo.com>

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I'm going to pull a Dubya. That story about the dog is an historical authentic rumour. Nakhla has been blamed for a death of a dog even if that dog never been produced. It still may turn up someday once a thorough search has been conducted by the experts in lost pets.
 
Howard Wu

"Charles R. Viau" <cviau_at_beld.net> wrote:


Thanks Ken,

Thanks for the links, great info! Wonder what is worth more,
the piece of Mars or the bones of the dog... Hope the bones never hit
Ebay...

Charlyv

-----Original Message-----
From: magellon [mailto:magellon_at_earthlink.net]
Sent: Tuesday, August 05, 2003 10:35 PM
To: Charles R. Viau
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Great Ball Of Fire Lights Up New Zealand
Sky

Charles,
Walter Branch has kept a detailed record of persons and things that
meteorites have reportedly struck:
http://www.branchmeteorites.com/metstruck.html
I also have list of newspaper accounts of meteorites killing persons:
http://home.earthlink.net/~magellon/news1.html
To complicate matters, a hoaxer working for UP initiated
most of the early newspaper 'death by meteorite' stories:
http://www.pairlist.net/pipermail/meteorite-list/2003-March/018369.html
> Is this work
> taken with any seriousness in the scientific community?
I do not know. There have been so many hoaxes...
Unless stories are corroborated, I do not think they are taken
seriously.
I have not been privileged to read "Rain of Iron and Ice" but hope to
do so in future.
My reference "Uh oh" is to a unending debate between Kevin Kechinka and
Ron Baalke over the 1911 death of the Egyptian dog.
Best,
Ken




"Charles R. Viau" wrote:
>
> I read "Rain of Iron and Ice", by John S. Lewis recently. He claims
that
> there is hard evidence that many people have been killed by meteorites
> over the course of recorded history, especially in China, where the
most
> detailed records of celestial events have been documented. Is this
work
> taken with any seriousness in the scientific community? It even has a
> recommendation written by Carl Sagan. I loved that book, and I think
it
> is a must read for everyone who is interested in meteorites.
>
> CharlyV
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: meteorite-list-admin_at_meteoritecentral.com
> [mailto:meteorite-list-admin_at_meteoritecentral.com] On Behalf Of
magellon
> Sent: Tuesday, August 05, 2003 4:29 PM
> To: Ron Baalke; meteorite-list_at_meteoritecentral.com
> Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Great Ball Of Fire Lights Up New Zealand
> Sky
>
> > No one had been killed by a meteor but in 1911 one was blamed for
> > causing the death of a dog, he said.
>
> Uh oh..... (that dog will never die!:>)
> kn
>
> Ron Baalke wrote:
> >
> > http://www.stuff.co.nz/stuff/0,2106,2600500a11,00.html
> >
> > Great ball of fire lights up Aucklanders' lives
> > www.stuff.co.nz
> > 06 August 2003
> >
> > A spectacular fireball blazed across the northern sky yesterday, a
> piece
> > of the more than 30,000 tonnes of the normally invisible space junk
> that
> > hits Earth each year.
> >
> > Observers in Auckland and from as far away as Whangarei described a
> > flaming, bright-red fireball with a long white tail shooting across
> the
> > sky from the northeast just before 6pm.
> >
> > One man in Auckland suburb Orakei, who reported the sight to One
Tree
> > Hill Stardome Observatory, said the meteor appeared to remain bright
> as
> > it disappeared over the horizon.
> >
> > Another man, who was driving towards the Auckland Harbour Bridge,
said
> > it was "amazing". "I saw the white light first and then it flared
into
> a
> > green flash. I've never seen a green like it before."
> >
> > Stardome spokeswoman Angela Doherty said the fireball, described as
> > having a "lingering white tail", was a piece of either human
> > space junk or space rock "that wandered just a bit too close to
> Earth".
> >
> > Wellington's Carter Observatory spokesman John Field said it would
be
> > difficult to gauge the size of the meteor but said it could have
been
> as
> > big as a fist or the size of a person's head.
> >
> > No one had been killed by a meteor but in 1911 one was blamed for
> > causing the death of a dog, he said.
> >
> > Most space debris simply fell harmlessly and invisibly to the
ground,
> > heating up and burning as it entered the atmosphere before dropping
to
> > earth.
> >
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<DIV>I'm going to pull a Dubya. That story about the dog is an historical authentic rumour. Nakhla has been blamed for a death of a dog even if that dog never&nbsp;been produced.&nbsp;It still may&nbsp;turn up&nbsp;someday once a thorough search has been conducted by the experts in lost pets. </DIV>
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<DIV>Howard Wu<BR><BR><B><I>"Charles R. Viau" &lt;cviau_at_beld.net&gt;</I></B> wrote:</DIV>
<DIV>
<BLOCKQUOTE style="PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #1010ff 2px solid; WIDTH: 100%"><BR><BR>Thanks Ken,<BR><BR>Thanks for the links, great info! Wonder what is worth more,<BR>the piece of Mars or the bones of the dog... Hope the bones never hit<BR>Ebay...<BR><BR>Charlyv<BR><BR>-----Original Message-----<BR>From: magellon [mailto:magellon_at_earthlink.net] <BR>Sent: Tuesday, August 05, 2003 10:35 PM<BR>To: Charles R. Viau<BR>Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Great Ball Of Fire Lights Up New Zealand<BR>Sky<BR><BR>Charles,<BR>Walter Branch has kept a detailed record of persons and things that<BR>meteorites have reportedly struck:<BR>http://www.branchmeteorites.com/metstruck.html<BR>I also have list of newspaper accounts of meteorites killing persons:<BR>http://home.earthlink.net/~magellon/news1.html<BR>To complicate matters, a hoaxer working for UP initiated <BR>most of the early newspaper 'death by meteorite'
 stories:<BR>http://www.pairlist.net/pipermail/meteorite-list/2003-March/018369.html<BR>&gt; Is this work<BR>&gt; taken with any seriousness in the scientific community? <BR>I do not know. There have been so many hoaxes...<BR>Unless stories are corroborated, I do not think they are taken<BR>seriously.<BR>I have not been privileged to read "Rain of Iron and Ice" but hope to <BR>do so in future.<BR>My reference "Uh oh" is to a unending debate between Kevin Kechinka and<BR>Ron Baalke over the 1911 death of the Egyptian dog. <BR>Best,<BR>Ken<BR><BR><BR><BR><BR>"Charles R. Viau" wrote:<BR>&gt; <BR>&gt; I read "Rain of Iron and Ice", by John S. Lewis recently. He claims<BR>that<BR>&gt; there is hard evidence that many people have been killed by meteorites<BR>&gt; over the course of recorded history, especially in China, where the<BR>most<BR>&gt; detailed records of celestial events have been documented. Is this<BR>work<BR>&gt; taken with any seriousness in the scientific community? It even
 has a<BR>&gt; recommendation written by Carl Sagan. I loved that book, and I think<BR>it<BR>&gt; is a must read for everyone who is interested in meteorites.<BR>&gt; <BR>&gt; CharlyV<BR>&gt; <BR>&gt; -----Original Message-----<BR>&gt; From: meteorite-list-admin_at_meteoritecentral.com<BR>&gt; [mailto:meteorite-list-admin@meteoritecentral.com] On Behalf Of<BR>magellon<BR>&gt; Sent: Tuesday, August 05, 2003 4:29 PM<BR>&gt; To: Ron Baalke; meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com<BR>&gt; Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Great Ball Of Fire Lights Up New Zealand<BR>&gt; Sky<BR>&gt; <BR>&gt; &gt; No one had been killed by a meteor but in 1911 one was blamed for<BR>&gt; &gt; causing the death of a dog, he said.<BR>&gt; <BR>&gt; Uh oh..... (that dog will never die!:&gt;)<BR>&gt; kn<BR>&gt; <BR>&gt; Ron Baalke wrote:<BR>&gt; &gt;<BR>&gt; &gt; http://www.stuff.co.nz/stuff/0,2106,2600500a11,00.html<BR>&gt; &gt;<BR>&gt; &gt; Great ball of fire lights up Aucklanders' lives<BR>&gt; &gt;
 www.stuff.co.nz<BR>&gt; &gt; 06 August 2003<BR>&gt; &gt;<BR>&gt; &gt; A spectacular fireball blazed across the northern sky yesterday, a<BR>&gt; piece<BR>&gt; &gt; of the more than 30,000 tonnes of the normally invisible space junk<BR>&gt; that<BR>&gt; &gt; hits Earth each year.<BR>&gt; &gt;<BR>&gt; &gt; Observers in Auckland and from as far away as Whangarei described a<BR>&gt; &gt; flaming, bright-red fireball with a long white tail shooting across<BR>&gt; the<BR>&gt; &gt; sky from the northeast just before 6pm.<BR>&gt; &gt;<BR>&gt; &gt; One man in Auckland suburb Orakei, who reported the sight to One<BR>Tree<BR>&gt; &gt; Hill Stardome Observatory, said the meteor appeared to remain bright<BR>&gt; as<BR>&gt; &gt; it disappeared over the horizon.<BR>&gt; &gt;<BR>&gt; &gt; Another man, who was driving towards the Auckland Harbour Bridge,<BR>said<BR>&gt; &gt; it was "amazing". "I saw the white light first and then it flared<BR>into<BR>&gt; a<BR>&gt; &gt; green flash. I've never seen
 a green like it before."<BR>&gt; &gt;<BR>&gt; &gt; Stardome spokeswoman Angela Doherty said the fireball, described as<BR>&gt; &gt; having a "lingering white tail", was a piece of either human<BR>&gt; &gt; space junk or space rock "that wandered just a bit too close to<BR>&gt; Earth".<BR>&gt; &gt;<BR>&gt; &gt; Wellington's Carter Observatory spokesman John Field said it would<BR>be<BR>&gt; &gt; difficult to gauge the size of the meteor but said it could have<BR>been<BR>&gt; as<BR>&gt; &gt; big as a fist or the size of a person's head.<BR>&gt; &gt;<BR>&gt; &gt; No one had been killed by a meteor but in 1911 one was blamed for<BR>&gt; &gt; causing the death of a dog, he said.<BR>&gt; &gt;<BR>&gt; &gt; Most space debris simply fell harmlessly and invisibly to the<BR>ground,<BR>&gt; &gt; heating up and burning as it entered the atmosphere before dropping<BR>to<BR>&gt; &gt; earth.<BR>&gt; &gt;<BR>&gt; &gt; ______________________________________________<BR>&gt; &gt; Meteorite-list mailing
 list<BR>&gt; &gt; Meteorite-list_at_meteoritecentral.com<BR>&gt; &gt; http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list<BR>&gt; <BR>&gt; ______________________________________________<BR>&gt; Meteorite-list mailing list<BR>&gt; Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com<BR>&gt; http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list<BR><BR><BR><BR>______________________________________________<BR>Meteorite-list mailing list<BR>Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com<BR>http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list</BLOCKQUOTE></DIV><p><hr size=1><font face="Arial" size="2">Want to chat instantly with your online friends? <a href="http://uk.rd.yahoo.com/mail/tagline_messenger/*http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com/"><b>Get the FREE Yahoo!
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