[meteorite-list] Another fireball "below the cloud deck".

From: Robert Verish <bolidechaser_at_meteoritecentral.com>
Date: Thu Apr 22 10:22:39 2004
Message-ID: <20030617050656.71980.qmail_at_web80501.mail.yahoo.com>

Thought this may be of some interest. Another report
of a fireball "below the cloud level". In the past,
these accounts have been written off as being a depth
perception problem or optical illusion [read delusion]
but these accounts should be looked at more closely:

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meteorobs-digest Thursday, June 12 2003
Volume 04 : Number 1164

Fireball(?), Alma NM USA, 8 June 2003 22:20 MST
Re: Fireball(?), Alma NM USA, 8 June 2003 22:20 MST
Re: Fireball(?), Alma NM USA, 8 June 2003 22:20 MST
Re: Fireball(?), Alma NM USA, 8 June 2003 22:20 MST
Re: Fireball(?), Alma NM USA, 8 June 2003 22:20 MST
Daylight fireball in New Zealand

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Date: Wed, 11 Jun 2003 16:08:13 -0400 (EDT)
From: Jill and Nevyn (via Lew Gramer)
<mirage_at_gilanet.com>
Subject: Fireball(?), Alma NM USA, 8June2003 22:20 MST

Hi:

My wife Jill and I saw a really large fire ball on
June 8 at 10:20 pm MST. We live in the Gila National
Forest in Alma New Mexico. The ball was traveling
from south to north. It had a wide long tail, and
the color of the ball was mostly bright green with a
center of white with some orange. It lasted about 5
to 8 seconds . The palm of my hand barely covered the
ball when held up against the night sky.
What was really weird was that it was below cloud
level making it really spectacular.


- -From The Enchanted Forest
- -Nevyn

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Date: Wed, 11 Jun 2003 14:56:24 -0600
From: "Jim Gamble" <jagamble_at_sbcglobal.net>
Subject: Re: Fireball(?), Alma NM USA, 8June2003 22:20

MST

This event may have been captured by an all sky camera
at Sandia Labs in Albuquerque NM. There is, however, a
discrepancy in the time element. The event was
recorded at Sandia at 22:52:25 MDT vs the 22:20 time
given in your report. Is there a chance your time
is a bit off. Also, can you provide a direction of
travel and approx start and end elevations and
azimuths (compass bearings). If this is the event, I
can provide you with a JPEG image from the camera
and a URL to see a Quicktime movie of the event.
Thanks for your report.
Regards,
Jim Gamble
El Paso, Tx Station-Sandia Meteor Detection Network
All Sky Camera System
31.47.7.822N 106.18.18.770W
jagamble_at_sbcglobal.net
http://www.geocities.com/desert_lights

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Date: Wed, 11 Jun 2003 15:17:35 -0600
From: "Jill and Nevyn" <mirage_at_gilanet.com>
Subject: Re: Fireball(?), Alma NM USA, 8June2003 22:20
MST

Dear Jim:

Sorry about the time error. My wife Jill informs me
that it was about 10:45 not 10:20. However even this
is a rough guess but close. We don't have a compass
so I have no way of giving you an exact direction of
travel. I am certain that the one recorded at the
Sandia Labs is the same. If you have a jpg image I
would sure like to see it.


Regards
Nevyn
DearDear From The Enchanted Forest Nevyn

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Date: Wed, 11 Jun 2003 15:27:34 -0600
From: "Jill and Nevyn" <mirage_at_gilanet.com>
Subject: Re: Fireball(?), Alma NM USA, 8June2003 22:20

MST

Hi Jim:

Just one more thing...it was traveling out of the
south and going north.
Also, keep in mind that here in the Gila Forest clocks
and time don't mean a lot to forest dwellers. That is
why we were so uncertain as to the time.
However on closer review we (Jill and I) are quite
certain that it had to be around 10:45 pm because Jill
says she looked at the clock when we went back inside
and it was then 10:50 pm. Also, June 8th is Jill's
birthday!
That was a big birthday candle!

Nevyn

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Date: Wed, 11 Jun 2003 18:37:56 -0400 (EDT)
From: Michael Linnolt <mlinnolt_at_alum.mit.edu>
Subject: Re: Fireball(?), Alma NM USA, 8June2003 22:20

MST

This case so clearly points out that there is little
correlation, even in year AD2003, between what some
"clock" says and the actual true *TIME*. Unless we all
start using the *FREE* VLF atomic time service
provided by the US Gov't (NIST, Boulder, CO), needless
energy will continue to be wasted trying to resolve
such trivial discrepancies. You can get a battery
operated one, that never needs to be set and is never
wrong by more than a second, for about 30 bucks.

http://store.yahoo.com/radiowatches/seikrwavrada.html

(This is not a commercial, just an example...)

Mike Linnolt

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Date: Thu, 12 Jun 2003 16:35:06 -0500
From: Ed Cannon <ecannon_at_mail.utexas.edu>
Subject: Daylight fireball in New Zealand

There's a report of a daylight fireball in New
Zealand,
"Spectacular rare green meteor lights up morning sky":

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/storydisplay.cfm?
storyID=3507224&thesection=news&thesubsection=general

(All of that is supposed to be a single URL).

Ed Cannon - ecannon2mail.utexas.edu - Austin, Texas,
USA

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