[meteorite-list] Anti-rust

From: mark ford <markf_at_meteoritecentral.com>
Date: Thu Apr 22 10:22:45 2004
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Hi,
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Problem is that irons (and indeed chondrites) actually contain a
[mixture] of metals and there therefore is an electronic potential
between different metals which is aggravated by water. In a vehicle/car
which is nearly all the same type of steel, electronic protection will
probably work ok, since all surfaces are nicely earthed to the auto/car
chassis. But I doubt if it would work on the dissimilar metals such as
those in meteorites because you could never even out all the charges.
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Vapor Corrosion inhibitors' or VCI's are chemical emmiters that stop
rust they work in a much different way, they emit a molecular coating
which settles on the meteorite / metal surface just a few atoms thick,
and stop the air/water from reaching the surface thus stopping rust. The
coating is so thin that it is not even noticeable but it really does
work and is used extensively for this purpose.
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Mark F.
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-----Original Message-----
From: Joseph Murakami [mailto:murakamij004_at_hawaii.rr.com]=20
Sent: 30 June 2003 09:40
To: Meteorite-list_at_meteoritecentral.com
Subject: [meteorite-list] Anti-rust
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Here's a bit of info while I was investigating anti-rust..
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The vapor emitters are fascinating, but how about for our open-air
specimens on displays?? This may be prohibitively costly...I'll have to
await their reply to my inquiries. =20
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This system is for 4WD's, SUV, auto's, but I imagine it might be
adaptable for our larger meteorites. Anyone out there with rusty 300 lb
Campo's??
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Joseph
Honolulu
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http://www.counteractrust.com/
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 The CounterAct electronic rust prevention system uses a process called
'capacitive coupling' to apply a measurable current to every metallic
component of a vehicle that's earthed to the battery. A small unit,
usually mounted on the firewall, detects the amount of power required to
create an electrostatic field that will keep the metal structure
electron-rich and then provides that power, reducing the ion mobility
that's the basis of the corrosion process, The unit is fed from the
vehicle's battery, drawing about as much current as an LCD clock.
So the system operates by applying one of the principles of
electrochemistry - that an oxidation reaction can be slowed or retarded
by creating a surplus of electrons to the metal from a supplementary
source.

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<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span =
style=3D'font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Hi,<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span =
style=3D'font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Problem is that irons (and indeed =
chondrites)
actually contain a [mixture] of metals and there therefore is an =
electronic
potential between different metals which is aggravated by water. In a =
vehicle/car
which is nearly all the same type of steel, electronic protection will =
probably
work ok, since all surfaces are nicely earthed to the auto/car chassis. =
But I
doubt if it would work on the dissimilar metals such as those in =
meteorites
because you could never even out all the =
charges.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span =
style=3D'font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span =
style=3D'font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Vapor Corrosion inhibitors&#8217; =
or VCI&#8217;s
<span style=3D'mso-spacerun:yes'>&nbsp;</span>are chemical emmiters that =
stop
rust they <span style=3D'mso-spacerun:yes'>&nbsp;</span>work in a much =
different
way, they emit a molecular coating which settles on the meteorite / =
metal
surface just a few atoms thick, and stop the air/water from reaching the
surface thus stopping rust. The coating is so thin that it is not even =
noticeable
but it really does work and is used extensively for this =
purpose.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span =
style=3D'font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><span
style=3D'mso-spacerun:yes'>&nbsp;</span><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span =
style=3D'font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Mark =
F.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:36.0pt'><font size=3D2 =
face=3DTahoma><span
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma;mso-fareast-font-family:"Tim=
es New Roman"'>-----Original
Message-----<br>
<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>From:</span></b> Joseph Murakami
[mailto:murakamij004_at_hawaii.rr.com] <br>
<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> =
</span></font><st1:date
Month=3D"6" Day=3D"30" Year=3D"2003"><font size=3D2 face=3DTahoma><span =
style=3D'font-size:
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June
 2003</span></font></st1:date><font size=3D2 face=3DTahoma><span =
style=3D'font-size:
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</span></font><st1:time
Hour=3D"9" Minute=3D"40"><font size=3D2 face=3DTahoma><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;
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Roman"'>09:40</span></font></st1:time><font
size=3D2 face=3DTahoma><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma;mso-fareast-font-family:
"Times New Roman"'><br>
<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b>
Meteorite-list_at_meteoritecentral.com<br>
<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> [meteorite-list]
Anti-rust</span></font></p>

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<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:36.0pt'><font size=3D2 =
face=3DArial><span
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>Here&#8217;s a bit of info =
while I
was investigating anti-rust..<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:36.0pt'><font size=3D2 =
face=3DArial><span
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>The vapor emitters are =
fascinating,
but how about for our open-air specimens on displays??<span
style=3D'mso-spacerun:yes'>&nbsp; </span>This may be prohibitively
costly&#8230;I&#8217;ll have to await their reply to my inquiries.<span
style=3D'mso-spacerun:yes'>&nbsp; </span><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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face=3DArial><span
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></fo=
nt></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:36.0pt'><font size=3D2 =
face=3DArial><span
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>This system is for =
4WD&#8217;s, SUV,
auto&#8217;s, but I imagine it might be adaptable for our larger
meteorites.<span style=3D'mso-spacerun:yes'>&nbsp; </span>Anyone out =
there with
rusty 300 lb Campo&#8217;s??<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:36.0pt'><font size=3D2 =
face=3DArial><span
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></fo=
nt></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:36.0pt'><font size=3D2 =
face=3DArial><span
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></fo=
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face=3DArial><span
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>Joseph<o:p></o:p></span></fo=
nt></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'margin-left:36.0pt'><st1:City><st1:place><font
  size=3D2 face=3DArial><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>Honolulu</span></font></st1:=
place></st1:City><font
size=3D2 face=3DArial><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p=
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face=3DArial><span
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></fo=
nt></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:36.0pt'><font size=3D2 =
face=3DArial><span
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'><a
href=3D"http://www.counteractrust.com/">http://www.counteractrust.com/</a=
><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:36.0pt'><font size=3D2 =
face=3DArial><span
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></fo=
nt></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:36.0pt'><font size=3D3
face=3D"Times New Roman"><span style=3D'font-size:12.0pt'><span
style=3D'mso-spacerun:yes'>&nbsp;</span></span></font><font =
face=3DArial><span
style=3D'font-family:Arial'>The <b><span =
style=3D'font-weight:bold'>CounterAct</span></b>
electronic rust prevention system uses a process called <b><span
style=3D'font-weight:bold'>'capacitive coupling'</span></b> to apply a =
measurable
current to every metallic component of a vehicle that's earthed to the =
battery.
A small unit, usually mounted on the firewall, detects the amount of =
power
required to create an electrostatic field that will keep the metal =
structure
electron-rich and then provides that power, reducing the ion mobility =
that's
the basis of the corrosion process, The unit is fed from the vehicle's =
battery,
drawing about as much current as an LCD clock.<br>
So the system operates by applying one of the principles of =
electrochemistry -
that an oxidation reaction can be slowed or retarded by creating a =
surplus of
electrons to the metal from a supplementary source.</span></font><font =
size=3D2
face=3DArial><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p=
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