[meteorite-list] NWA 984 TKW

From: Adam Hupe <adamhupe_at_meteoritecentral.com>
Date: Thu Apr 22 10:27:52 2004
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NachrichtHello Jose and List,

In a perfect world you should be able to simply email the NomCom with =
updates and they would be added to the TKW but it does not work that =
way. They do print corrections in the Meteoritical Bulletin if properly =
submitted and the committee feels it is important enough to publish. =
Some problems are how would they be able to tell they really are paired =
without coordinates to the find? Since there is a considerable amount =
of new material to study and deadlines to pursue, how can scientists =
devote the time to report every suspected pairing when there is so much =
unreported material that needs to be announced? The laboratories are =
overwhelmed so it will be some time before the pairing situations are =
resolved. =20

We feel it is up to the dealers to report pairings to collectors when =
there is little doubt. We have been burned a couple of times thinking =
we had the largest specimen from a particular find just to have a bigger =
piece show up. These problems continue to be discussed so hopefully =
solutions will present themselves in the future. By the way, several =
scientists are working in collaboration to figure out pairings and TKWs =
for the new Mesosiderites.

All the best,

Adam Hupe

     =20
  ----- Original Message -----=20
  From: Jose Campos=20
  To: meteorite-list_at_meteoritecentral.com=20
  Sent: Saturday, November 22, 2003 9:56 AM
  Subject: Fw: [meteorite-list] NWA 984 TKW


  Hi Hupes and List,

  I thought that, for a new meteorite to be given an official NWA number =
(or name), as part of the info to be supllied, would be to inform the =
know TKW at the time when it was found - and that later on, this amount =
could be updated if necessary, as more info would come in?
  It seems that it is not that simple!
  Regards,
  Jos=E9 Campos

  =20
  ----- Original Message -----=20
  From: Adam Hupe=20
  To: Bernhard "Rendelius" Rems=20
  Cc: meteorite-list_at_meteoritecentral.com=20
  Sent: Wednesday, November 19, 2003 7:05 PM
  Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] NWA 984


  Hi Bernhard and List,

  Nobody knows the TKW for NWA 984 but there must be at least a couple =
of kilos judging by the number of stones we have tested. =20

  All the best,

  Adam and Greg Hupe


    ---Hi Bernhard

     Original Message -----=20
    From: Bernhard "Rendelius" Rems=20
    To: meteorite-list_at_meteoritecentral.com=20
    Sent: Wednesday, November 19, 2003 11:08 AM
    Subject: [meteorite-list] NWA 984


    Hi there,

    and once again I am asking for a TKW of an NWA. I tried several =
sites and didn't find an answer.
    An auction on ebay states that the TKW for NWA 984 is just 89g - but =
I doubt that, looking at my collection (31g) and the masses of NWA 984 =
Greg and Adam are offering every week :-)

    So: who has solid numbers or can tell me that I am wrong? :-)

    Bernhard

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<DIV><FONT size=3D2>Hello Jose and List,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2>In a perfect world you should be able to simply =
email the=20
NomCom with updates and they would be added to the TKW but it does not =
work that=20
way.&nbsp; They do print corrections in the Meteoritical Bulletin if =
properly=20
submitted and the committee feels it is important enough to=20
publish.&nbsp;&nbsp;Some problems are how would they be able to tell =
they really=20
are paired without coordinates to the find?&nbsp; Since there is a =
considerable=20
amount of&nbsp;new material to study and deadlines to pursue, how can =
scientists=20
devote the time to report every suspected pairing when there is so much=20
unreported material&nbsp;that needs to be announced?&nbsp; The =
laboratories are=20
overwhelmed&nbsp;so it will be some time before the pairing situations =
are=20
resolved.&nbsp;&nbsp;</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2>We feel it is up to the dealers to report pairings=20
to&nbsp;collectors when there is little doubt.&nbsp; We have been burned =
a=20
couple of times thinking we had the largest specimen from a particular =
find just=20
to have a bigger piece show up.&nbsp; These problems continue to be =
discussed so=20
hopefully solutions will present themselves in the future.&nbsp; By the =
way,=20
several scientists are working in collaboration to figure out pairings =
and TKWs=20
for the new Mesosiderites.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2>All the best,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2>Adam Hupe</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;</FONT></DIV>
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  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV>
  <DIV=20
  style=3D"BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: =
black"><B>From:</B>=20
  <A title=3Djosecamposcomet_at_netcabo.pt=20
  href=3D"mailto:josecamposcomet_at_netcabo.pt">Jose Campos</A> </DIV>
  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A=20
  title=3Dmeteorite-list_at_meteoritecentral.com=20
  =
href=3D"mailto:meteorite-list_at_meteoritecentral.com">meteorite-list@meteor=
itecentral.com</A>=20
  </DIV>
  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Saturday, November 22, =
2003 9:56=20
  AM</DIV>
  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Fw: [meteorite-list] =
NWA 984=20
  TKW</DIV>
  <DIV><BR></DIV>
  <DIV id=3D0></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT size=3D2>Hi Hupes and List,</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT size=3D2>I thought that, for a new meteorite to be given an =
official=20
  NWA number (or name), as part of the info to be supllied, would be to =
inform=20
  the know TKW at the time when it was found - and that later on, this =
amount=20
  could be updated if necessary, &nbsp;as more info would come =
in?</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT size=3D2>It seems that it is not that simple!</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT size=3D2>Regards,</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT size=3D2>Jos=E9 Campos</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT size=3D2></FONT><BR><SPAN id=3Dhbblock>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message -----=20
  <DIV style=3D"BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; font-color: black"><B>From:</B> <A=20
  title=3Dadamhupe_at_comcast.net href=3D"mailto:adamhupe@comcast.net">Adam =
Hupe</A>=20
  </DIV>
  <DIV><B>To:</B> <A title=3Drendelius_at_rpgdot.com=20
  href=3D"mailto:rendelius_at_rpgdot.com">Bernhard "Rendelius" Rems</A> =
</DIV>
  <DIV><B>Cc:</B> <A title=3Dmeteorite-list_at_meteoritecentral.com=20
  =
href=3D"mailto:meteorite-list_at_meteoritecentral.com">meteorite-list@meteor=
itecentral.com</A>=20
  </DIV>
  <DIV><B>Sent:</B> Wednesday, November 19, 2003 7:05 PM</DIV>
  <DIV><B>Subject:</B> Re: [meteorite-list] NWA 984</DIV></DIV>
  <DIV><BR></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Hi Bernhard and List,</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Nobody knows the TKW for NWA 984 but =
there must=20
  be at least a couple of kilos judging by the number of stones we have=20
  tested.&nbsp; </FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>All the best,</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Adam and Greg Hupe</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
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    <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial">---Hi Bernhard</DIV>
    <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial">&nbsp;</DIV>
    <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial">&nbsp;Original Message ----- </DIV>
    <DIV=20
    style=3D"BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: =
black"><B>From:</B>=20
    <A title=3Drendelius_at_rpgdot.com =
href=3D"mailto:rendelius_at_rpgdot.com">Bernhard=20
    "Rendelius" Rems</A> </DIV>
    <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A=20
    title=3Dmeteorite-list_at_meteoritecentral.com=20
    =
href=3D"mailto:meteorite-list_at_meteoritecentral.com">meteorite-list@meteor=
itecentral.com</A>=20
    </DIV>
    <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Wednesday, November 19, =
2003=20
    11:08 AM</DIV>
    <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> [meteorite-list] NWA =
984</DIV>
    <DIV><BR></DIV>
    <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2><SPAN class=3D015320219-19112003>Hi =

    there,</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
    <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2><SPAN=20
    class=3D015320219-19112003></SPAN></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
    <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2><SPAN =
class=3D015320219-19112003>and once again I=20
    am asking for a TKW of an NWA. I tried several sites and didn't find =
an=20
    answer.</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
    <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2><SPAN class=3D015320219-19112003>An =
auction on=20
    ebay states that the TKW for NWA 984 is just 89g - but I doubt that, =
looking=20
    at my collection (31g) and the masses of NWA 984 Greg and Adam are =
offering=20
    every week :-)</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
    <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2><SPAN=20
    class=3D015320219-19112003></SPAN></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
    <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2><SPAN =
class=3D015320219-19112003>So: who has=20
    solid numbers or can tell me that I am wrong? =
:-)</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
    <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2><SPAN=20
    class=3D015320219-19112003></SPAN></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
    <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2><SPAN=20
    =
class=3D015320219-19112003>Bernhard</SPAN></FONT></DIV></BLOCKQUOTE></SPA=
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