[meteorite-list] Junk in, Junk out, or "No-named Orphan Step Children need love too"

From: Greg redfern <gredfern_at_meteoritecentral.com>
Date: Thu Apr 22 10:28:21 2004
Message-ID: <000201c38a9d$450db290$110110ac_at_DHRYBX21>

I agree.

Greg Redfern
2003 JPL NASA Solar System Ambassador
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-----Original Message-----
From: meteorite-list-admin_at_meteoritecentral.com
[mailto:meteorite-list-admin_at_meteoritecentral.com] On Behalf Of John
Gwilliam
Sent: Saturday, October 04, 2003 12:22 PM
To: David Freeman; meteorite-list
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Junk in, Junk out, or "No-named Orphan =
Step
Children need love too"

Nicely put Brother Freeman...you're a class act.

Best,

John Gwilliam

At 10:09 AM 10/4/03 -0600, David Freeman wrote:
>Dear List, Bernd, Dean Bessy;
>I feel the need to apologize for offering to another "collector" the=20
>option of purchasing marbles as an alternative to buying even lessor=20
>lessor-priced meteorites. I was wrong...at least in the eyes of one=20
>(myself), well, maybe two.
>I seemed to feel that another list respondents use of the words =
"cheap"=20
>and "junk" in referring to NWA's and his asking for what seemed to be =
an=20
>offer to purchase/offer "nothing" for "something" was a low blow to =
the=20
>meteorite hunters and collectors of the world. If NWA's are =
continually=20
>looked upon by some as nothing less than clutter, why do so many in the =

>hot deserts even go out to search? We have been blessed as collectors =
to=20
>have been provided with this abundance to our hobby and business. =
This=20
>attitude of "junk" and "cheap" is a blight to our love of ALL =
meteorites,=20
>regardless of origin or pedigree status. I see the term "inexpensively =

>priced", or even "affordable run of the mill meteorites" as not nearly =
as=20
>degrading.
>Is it the meteorite's choice in falling to hot sands or on a southern=20
>polar ice cap? What meteorite would wish to impact a car, or even a =
house=20
>so it could be cherished more? Bah! If any meteorite is not worth it's=20
>value, then why ask for any value at all? I too love yard sales but =
would=20
>not insult a proprietor by offering to take something of value for =
nothing.
>
>I have, once coined the phrase "no-named orphan step child" in =
reference=20
>to unclassified NWA's. At one time, I even publicly endorsed a self =
ban=20
>on purchasing any meteorite with out a real home until more field data=20
>could have the opportunity to be collected. Even stray puppies need=20
>love and sustenance. The seemingly (and not true) perception of the=20
>abundant / infinite NWA's with (dirt) "cheap" and "junk" associations =
is=20
>not reality, and that perception is, and continues to be, further pain =
in=20
>many circles. One day, in the future, those with a sence of humor will =

>muse at this time and hopefully have pause for a chuckle (if they had=20
>purchased at fair value those no-named orphan step children, reasonable =

>and affordably priced stellar visitors of the hot sand deserts). =
Indeed,=20
>some NWA's come in a number of packages, some being under the value =
added=20
>title of "Lunar" and "Martian" meteorites.
>I would ask of those who would like to aquire NWA's and other hot =
desert=20
>meteorites with less than debutante status to refrain from asking=20
>dealers publicly to supply them with a source for "cheap" and "junk"=20
>anything, especially meteorites, despite their status...or in this =
case,=20
>lack of.
>
>Junk in, junk out
>
>I still do feel that those wanting to get "cheap" or "junk" anything=20
>should alter their direction to collecting marbles as they have in my=20
>opinion, lost a few of their own somewhere along the way.
>A buyers willingness to actively participate in an honest and fair =
value=20
>market exchange directly reflects up on that persons integrity in any=20
>proposed transaction.
>Not only does the seller know the value of his wares but the reverse =
is=20
>true also, the buyer knows the value of what he wishes to purchase.
>
>Sincerely,
>Dave Freeman
>
>
>
>
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