[meteorite-list] Re: EBay analysis (preliminary)

From: Mike Groetz <mpg444_at_meteoritecentral.com>
Date: Thu Apr 22 10:28:37 2004
Message-ID: <20031031003317.2883.qmail_at_web41314.mail.yahoo.com>

Everyone-
   I think this has went on long enough.
   We sell and collect meteorites for the imagination,
fun, develop friendships and to learn.
   Not for some geek to develop a program to advertize
our involvement and history.
   I agree with Mike Farmer 100%- IT IS NOBODY'S
BUSINESS anyones involvement! It has nothing positive
to offer. We all know who we like to buy from and work
with. No "data" will ever influence that.
   My suggestion is the developers of such programs go
crawl back into their hole. They have no interest in
meteorites and nothing to offer to the science of
meteorite collecting and learning. If anything, they
are only hurting the friendships and relationships
that seem harder to maintain in the world we live in.
   To all of you programming geeks that use the rest
of us for your data- get a life.
   We have a one- you don't. Don't make yours by using
ours.
Mike Groetz
IMCA #8474
   
   
   

--- Michael Farmer <meteoriteguy_at_yahoo.com> wrote:
> Michael, Let me make this very clear. I DO NOT want
> people posting for all to see the dollar amounts of
> the sum of the items I sell on ebay for any
> particular
> time. That is my choice, RESPECT IT. I will contact
> ebay and begin investigations to see if it is
> illegal
> to do so, end of story.
> On another note, I am in Munich now for the show,
> already spent a couople hours there today, tomorrow
> the public show opens, where I will be selling at
> Hans
> Kosers booth. I can be found in Hall 5 Stand A5.512.
> That is the middle building. There are some great
> meteorites here. Prices are out of this world
> though,
> especially with the USD$$$$ so weak against the
> Euro.
>
> Anyway, thanks, and please please do as I ask, and
> leave me out of any public postings of my ebay
> sales.
> Mike Farmer
> --- Michael L Blood <mlblood_at_cox.net> wrote:
> > Hi Mike & all,
> > That would be ok with me.
> > I never have understood why people are so
> > shy....
> > I know a lot of people got freaked when
> they
> > found out you can
> > look up anyone and get a satellite photo of their
> > home. I think it's a gas.
> > What's the prob? If someone is plotting to steal
> > from you, they can
> > certainly do it WITHOUT that photo. I looked up
> most
> > of the people
> > I care about when I discovered that little trick.
> > Especially fun for
> > people I hadn't visited since they last moved....
> > such as my daughter.
> > Anyway, if it is public information, it is
> > public information. I
> > just don't get it.
> > Anyway, I thought everyone decided the
> eBay
> > data was just dandy
> > without identifying each and every individual -
> so,
> > what is this
> > REALLY about???
> > Best wishes, Michael
> >
> > on 10/30/03 9:40 AM, Michael Farmer at
> > meteoriteguy_at_yahoo.com wrote:
> >
> > > Well, in that case, We could look up all oyoiur
> > > information that is publicly available and post
> it
> > > here. taxes, etc etc etc. Just because it is
> > public
> > > if you want to try, does not mean that it should
> > be
> > > posted for all to see.
> > > Mike Farmer
> > > --- Michael L Blood <mlblood_at_cox.net> wrote:
> > >> Jamie, Mike & all list members,
> > >> Any and all of you may be as offended as you
> > >> please, however,
> > >> Jamie has done absolutely nothing to violate
> > >> anyone's privacy. All
> > >> data he has provided IS PUBLIC KNOWLEDGE. All
> he
> > has
> > >> done is
> > >> organize it in a more comprehensive manner for
> > the
> > >> meteorite
> > >> community. If you have an issue, it is with
> eBay,
> > >> not with Jamie.
> > >> Additionally, I find this information both
> > >> interesting and
> > >> informative and appreciate reading it. It IS
> one
> > of
> > >> the many topics
> > >> appropriate to the list - it is a definite
> > >> indication of one level of the
> > >> meteorite market and, therefore, totally
> > appropriate
> > >> for the list.
> > >> Those who feel otherwise can always use the
> > >> old "delete" key.
> > >> Other than my statement that I, personally,
> > >> enjoy having
> > >> this information provided, the statements
> > contained
> > >> here are not a matter
> > >> of opinion, they are matters of fact. This is
> > public
> > >> information and
> > >> appropriate for the list. People can have all
> the
> > >> "opinions" about
> > >> that they want, it still won't change the
> reality
> > >> that those are facts.
> > >> I can be of the opinion that 2 + 2 = 3. I can
> be
> > >> offended that 2 + 2 = 4.
> > >> That does not mean that 2 + 2 does not = 4.
> > >> Sincerely, Michael Blood
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> on 10/29/03 4:53 AM, Michael Farmer at
> > >> meteoriteguy_at_yahoo.com wrote:
> > >>
> > >>> Hi, I just saw this in Prague. I am quite
> > offended
> > >> by
> > >>> the public posting of my information. If you
> > want
> > >> to
> > >>> take the time and do that research, ok, but
> > making
> > >> it
> > >>> public here is no one's business. DO NOTY put
> me
> > >> in
> > >>> that information again. It might even be
> against
> > >> ebay
> > >>> policy. I will research that when I get home.
> > >>> Mike Farmer
> > >>> --- RYAN PAWELSKI <yellowengine_at_earthlink.net>
> > >> wrote:
> > >>>> Should this be considered a true invasion of
> > >> privacy
> > >>>> even if all the information that was used in
> > the
> > >>>> analysis is available to anyone who wants to
> > >> obtain
> > >>>> it? It's not like this is confidential
> > >> information
> > >>>> being spewed without the persons consent. Or
> is
> > >> it?
> > >>>> : /
> > >>>>
> > >>>> -Ryan
> > >>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>> ----- Original Message -----
> > >>>> From: Randy Mils
> > >>>> To: meteorite-list_at_meteoritecentral.com
> > >>>> Sent: Wednesday, October 29, 2003 4:01 AM
> > >>>> Subject: Re: [meteorite-list]
> > >>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>> Let me be the first to agree that this is an
> > >>>> invasion of privacy. This is also not the
> > place
> > >> for
> > >>>> "ebay analysis". We have been there and
> done
> > >> that
> > >>>> with another "former list member"
> > >>>>
> > >>>> Randy
> > >>>>
> > >>>>> From: Jamie Stephens
> > >>>>> To: Meteorite List
> > >>>>> Subject: [meteorite-list] EBay analysis
> > >>>> (preliminary)
> > >>>>> Date: Tue, 28 Oct 2003 08:06:43 -0600
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> Listees,
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> On the dealer/collector spectrum, I'm at the
> > >>>> collector end.
> > >>>>> I haven't yet sold any meteorites (but I do
> > need
> > >> to
> > >>>> thin
> > >>>>> out my collection a bit). Anyway, I am
> > >> interested
> > >>>> in the
> > >>>>> meteorite market dynamics. It's fun.
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> Targeting Ebay, I exercised some software
> > tools
> > >> I
> > >>>> have. I
> > >>>>> looked at completed "Meteorites, Tektites"
> > >> category
> > >>>> completed
> > >>>>> sales from 2003-10-10 to 2003-10-25 (the
> data
> > >> that
>
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