Fw: [meteorite-list] Green Glassy Stone
From: Thomas Webb <webbth1_at_meteoritecentral.com>
Date: Thu Apr 22 10:30:00 2004 Message-ID: <20030928030354.80881.qmail_at_web20714.mail.yahoo.com> --0-1375250022-1064718234=:79486 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Robert and List, There should be no confusion between Tsavorite Garnet and Natural Glass the color of Tsavorite! I have sold both Tsavorite and Tektites for many years and have not had to explain the difference to anyone. I have had to convince some people that the litttle emerald looking stones are garnet rather than emerald and I haven't had any of the Tsavorite Colored natural glass to sell, only the other types of tektites that we are all familiar with. My point was that this ebay seller only used the word Tsavorite to describe the color of what he is selling and went on to say that they weren't Tsavorite Garnets. Perhaps he should just say GREEN and not use a word that could confuse a novice. As you noted, magnification will reveal bubbles in the glass but not the garnet. Also, if you perform a simple hardness test on the rough material you could distinguish the two. You probably wouldn't want to use that test with a faceted stone as a scratch would mar the surface. So, let's know (on the list at least) that Tsavorite refers to a certain green grossular garnet but that the same color might appear in a tektite or other natural glass. Some people might describe some pieces of Libyan Desert Glass as Amber (the color) but that doesn't make it Amber (the resin gemstone). Robert, your points are all valid but I don't see any confusion between green garnet and green glass. Maybe a person who knows absolutely nothing about minerals could have some trouble, but the ill-informed should make some effort to learn a little about stones before they start buying them, and yes, we do bear some responsibility in helping them to learn. Thanks for reading. My best, Thomas Robert Szep <zeprox_at_albedo.net> wrote: ----- Original Message ----- From: Robert Szep To: meteorite-list_at_meteoritecentral Sent: Saturday, September 27, 2003 3:16 PM Subject: Fw: [meteorite-list] Green Glassy Stone Hello Thomas & list. There are Tsavorite GARNETS and what are called Tsavorites which are being referred to as tektites. Both are found in the same region but are two different things. The Garnet formed in matrix and has a crystaline structure. The green glassy stones do not display any crystal-structure and do not appear to have formed within any type of matrix. One ebay seller specifically mentions that he is selling Tsavorite Tektite which is not to be mistaken for Tsavorite Garnet. The common naming and coloration shared by both materials creates confusion between the two. One of these two types of similar things contain tiny air-bubbles... Guess which one....... it's not the Garnet... R. Szep ----- Original Message ----- From: Thomas Webb To: meteorite-list_at_meteoritecentral.com Sent: Saturday, September 27, 2003 1:57 PM Subject: [meteorite-list] Green Glassy Stone Hello list, The guy with the ebay ad does not call his stone Tsavorite. He only uses this term to describe the COLOR of the stone he is selling. He even goes on to say that Tsavorite is a green garnet, which is correct. He does however call the stone a tektite. Perhaps someone can clarify the truth or non-truth of this proclamation. My best, Thomas H. Webb --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? The New Yahoo! Shopping - with improved product search --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? The New Yahoo! Shopping - with improved product search --0-1375250022-1064718234=:79486 Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii <DIV>Robert and List,</DIV> <DIV>There should be no confusion between Tsavorite Garnet and Natural Glass the color of Tsavorite! I have sold both Tsavorite and Tektites for many years and have not had to explain the difference to anyone. I have had to convince some people that the litttle emerald looking stones are garnet rather than emerald and I haven't had any of the Tsavorite Colored natural glass to sell, only the other types of tektites that we are all familiar with. My point was that this ebay seller only used the word Tsavorite to describe the color of what he is selling and went on to say that they weren't Tsavorite Garnets. Perhaps he should just say GREEN and not use a word that could confuse a novice.</DIV> <DIV>As you noted, magnification will reveal bubbles in the glass but not the garnet. Also, if you perform a simple hardness test on the rough material you could distinguish the two. You probably wouldn't want to use that test with a faceted stone as a scratch would mar the surface.</DIV> <DIV>So, let's know (on the list at least) that Tsavorite refers to a certain green grossular garnet but that the same color might appear in a tektite or other natural glass. Some people might describe some pieces of Libyan Desert Glass as Amber (the color) but that doesn't make it Amber (the resin gemstone).</DIV> <DIV>Robert, your points are all valid but I don't see any confusion between green garnet and green glass. Maybe a person who knows absolutely nothing about minerals could have some trouble, but the ill-informed should make some effort to learn a little about stones before they start buying them, and yes, we do bear some responsibility in helping them to learn.</DIV> <DIV>Thanks for reading.</DIV> <DIV>My best,</DIV> <DIV>Thomas</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV><BR><BR><B><I>Robert Szep <zeprox_at_albedo.net></I></B> wrote:</DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE class=replbq style="PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #1010ff 2px solid"> <META content="MSHTML 6.00.2800.1170" name=GENERATOR> <STYLE></STYLE> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- <DIV style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; font-color: black"><B>From:</B> <A title=zeprox_at_albedo.net href="mailto:zeprox@albedo.net">Robert Szep</A> </DIV> <DIV><B>To:</B> <A title=meteorite-list_at_meteoritecentral href="mailto:meteorite-list@meteoritecentral">meteorite-list@meteoritecentral</A> </DIV> <DIV><B>Sent:</B> Saturday, September 27, 2003 3:16 PM</DIV> <DIV><B>Subject:</B> Fw: [meteorite-list] Green Glassy Stone</DIV></DIV> <DIV><BR></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Hello Thomas & list. </FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>There are Tsavorite GARNETS and what are called Tsavorites which are being referred to as tektites.</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Both are found in the same region but are two different things. </FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>The Garnet formed in matrix and has a crystaline structure. The green glassy stones do not display any crystal-structure and do not appear to have formed within any type of matrix. </FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>One ebay seller specifically mentions that he is selling Tsavorite Tektite which is not to be mistaken for Tsavorite Garnet.</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>The common naming and coloration shared by both materials creates confusion between the two. </FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>One of these two types of similar things contain tiny air-bubbles... </FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Guess which one....... </FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>it's not the Garnet... </FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>R. Szep</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- <DIV style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; font-color: black"><B>From:</B> <A title=webbth1_at_yahoo.com href="mailto:webbth1@yahoo.com">Thomas Webb</A> </DIV> <DIV><B>To:</B> <A title=meteorite-list_at_meteoritecentral.com href="mailto:meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com">meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com</A> </DIV> <DIV><B>Sent:</B> Saturday, September 27, 2003 1:57 PM</DIV> <DIV><B>Subject:</B> [meteorite-list] Green Glassy Stone</DIV></DIV> <DIV><BR></DIV> <DIV>Hello list,</DIV> <DIV>The guy with the ebay ad does not call his stone Tsavorite. He only uses this term to describe the COLOR of the stone he is selling. He even goes on to say that Tsavorite is a green garnet, which is correct. He does however call the stone a tektite. Perhaps someone can clarify the truth or non-truth of this proclamation.</DIV> <DIV>My best,</DIV> <DIV>Thomas H. Webb</DIV> <P> <HR SIZE=1> Do you Yahoo!?<BR><A href="http://shopping.yahoo.com/?__yltc=s%3A150000443%2Cd%3A22708228%2Cslk%3Atext%2Csec%3Amail">The New Yahoo! Shopping</A> - with improved product search </BLOCKQUOTE><p><hr SIZE=1> Do you Yahoo!?<br> <a href="http://shopping.yahoo.com/?__yltc=s%3A150000443%2Cd%3A22708228%2Cslk%3Atext%2Csec%3Amail">The New Yahoo! Shopping</a> - with improved product search --0-1375250022-1064718234=:79486-- Received on Sat 27 Sep 2003 11:03:54 PM PDT |
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