[meteorite-list] New Campo -Myth Busted?

From: Michael Farmer <meteoritehunter_at_meteoritecentral.com>
Date: Tue Aug 24 13:07:15 2004
Message-ID: <008401c489fc$cdac1fb0$0200a8c0_at_S0031628003>

Interesting, but what is the point? Are you making a point? Why are you
worried about Campo now?
Any why post "emails" with no authors. If people are not willing to post
their names, regardless of the info, I think anything they write is
I dont really care, as I have been sold out of Campos for years, but still,
this is an odd discussion you are making.
Mike Farmer
----- Original Message -----
From: "Adam Hupe" <raremeteorites_at_comcast.net>
To: <meteorite-list_at_meteoritecentral.com>
Sent: Tuesday, August 24, 2004 9:52 AM
Subject: [meteorite-list] New Campo -Myth Busted?

> Dear List,
> I would like to thank those who responded to my inquiry about old versus
> Campos. I am looking to explore new areas and thought this locality might
> have been worth investigating but have since changed my mind. Below are a
> set of responses that best address this issue. The authors would like to
> remain anonymous so I left their names out.
> ***********************************************
> Email #1
> Your "well informed source" is correct on both counts. Illegal exportation
> and there are no mountainside finds. The terrain is basically flat and the
> strewn field is shorter and wider than presented in Cassiday's various
> papers. The reports of a specimen recovery 70-80 km down-range are
> but have never been evidenced. The difference between 'new' and 'old'
> is the depth of recovery. Cassiday's specimens recovered 1962-73 are both
> 'new' and 'old'. Recovered at depth within the craters are 'new'; those
> recovered from surface ejecta or from farmers' fields are 'old'. Repeated
> irrigation and the use of fertilizers has taken its toll. Cassiday used a
> WW2 metal detector in his search. With the increasing demand by
collectors -
> beginning about 1989 - much more powerful detectors are being used in
> recovery; the deeper recoveries being more stable. Not all of the 'new'
> specimens are stable as some specimens continue to be found at shallow
> depths. The extremely flat surface of the region is subject to sheet
> deposition 1-2 cm/100 yr (think Kansas). Runoff is limited to shallow
> depressions and occasional shallow channels; the slopes of which might be
> miss translated as mountain-sides.
> The pre-entry meteoroid is estimated to be ~ 3 m in diameter and masses ~
> 840,000 kg (Lieberman, et al., in MAPS Feb 2002) and suggests that many
> specimens will be smuggled out in the coming years.
> Other than the variously published photos by Cassidy et, al. I was only
> to locate photos of the "Haag" specimen. Its recovery down-range is
> consistent with aerial break-up scenarios and is probably the Campo del
> Cielo main mass.
> ****************************************************
> Another Note:
> The place where the "New Campos" are found is the same that the one of the
> "Old Campos". The difference is the "old" are near the surface, so them
> intensely undergone the effects of the meteorization, mainly the humidity.
> The "new" are deeper so that them could conserve its regmagliptes and have
> greater stability. The "New Campos" began to appear when the zone was
> released with powerful metal detectors. Previously the espec?mentes were
> found on the surface or raised when the fields were plowed.
> The Campo del Cielo strewn field has 45km by 15km. But it has an area of
> approximately 1500 hectares where the greater concentration is verified.
> Many authors affirm that the strewn field reaches 80 km, because stories
> exist on the denominated "Mes?n de Fierro", probably situated 70 km to the
> NE of the main site. But until today it was not verified.
> *******************************************************
> I hope you found this information to be as interesting as I did,
> Adam
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Received on Tue 24 Aug 2004 01:07:13 PM PDT

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