[meteorite-list] Pellisson, the end of a free meteorite hobby?

From: GERALD FLAHERTY <grf2_at_meteoritecentral.com>
Date: Fri Dec 3 10:00:24 2004
Message-ID: <004b01c4d948$ccada020$6401a8c0_at_dawnjerry>

How outrageous!!!!
----- Original Message -----
From: "Tom AKA James Knudson" <peregrineflier_at_npgcable.com>
To: "Norbert Classen" <trifid_at_timewarp.de>; "meteorite-list"
<meteorite-list_at_meteoritecentral.com>
Cc: "La Memoire de la Terre" <info_at_meteorite.fr>
Sent: Friday, December 03, 2004 9:44 AM
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Pellisson, the end of a free meteorite hobby?


> Are they stupid? I think if they succeed and they are the only ones
> getting
> them, their business will go down the tubes fast! I really don't think
> any
> self respecting collector would buy anything from them. I know there are
> a
> few that would, but not enough to keep them in business.
>
> Thanks, Tom
> peregrineflier <><
> IMCA 6168
> http://www.frontiernet.net/~peregrineflier/Peregrineflier.htm
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Norbert Classen" <trifid_at_timewarp.de>
> To: "meteorite-list" <meteorite-list_at_meteoritecentral.com>
> Cc: "La Memoire de la Terre" <info_at_meteorite.fr>
> Sent: Friday, December 03, 2004 6:38 AM
> Subject: [meteorite-list] Pellisson, the end of a free meteorite hobby?
>
>
>> Hi All,
>>
>> I'm forwarding this message on behalf of Bruno & Carine.
>> They are having problems to post to the list, and thus they
>> asked me for assistance. Please read below.
>>
>> BTW, I believe their message to be of major importance to
>> us all. We shouldn't allow a few rotten apples to spoil our
>> hobby - so please read what Bruno & Carine have to say since
>> it affects us all, and a few of us, more directly.
>>
>> If you want to take action, please contact Bruno & Carine in
>> that matter. You may reach them via: info_at_meteorite.fr
>>
>> Best,
>> Norbert
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>>
>> Dear List Members,
>>
>> this subject is of high interest as it will affect all of us
>> including the scientists. What the Pellissons are doing is just
>> unbelievable, they already did contact the French interior
>> Ministry as well as the Customs offices in different countries.
>> They are linking the meteorite community to terrorism in different
>> ways.
>>
>> They did send to major medias a 64 pages document full of crap
>> with parts of YOUR private and public mails to try to establish
>> that nobody but themselves have the right to sell meteorites!!
>>
>> Be aware than in a close future we will all have problems shipping
>> or crossing borders with meteorites, thanks to them!
>> Just try a Google search for "money for terrorism" and you will get
>> straight to their page, listed in first place.... see it here:
>>
>> http://www.google.fr/search?hl=fr&q=%22money+for+terrorism%22&meta=
>>
>> They are using metanames and cross linking
>> with pages about horrible things just to attract interest on them.
>>
>> You all know that we did bring them to court, they already have been
>> sentenced in emergency during the last Tucson show. Now we are driving
>> them to serious things, we received their list of pseudo arguments
>> from our attorneys.
>>
>> Here is the list of the people they are involving in front of the Judge
>> and the Lyon's Court (the second biggest in France), they are using
>> parts of your public and private emails to try to explain why meteorites
>> (except of their own) are funding terrorism.
>>
>> Warning: be aware that these documents are used to prove that either
>> you 100% agree with them and support their ideas or that you are involved
>> in funding islamist networks......
>>
>> Privates:
>> Mr Bernd Pauli
>> Mr Eric Twelker
>> Mr Art Jones
>> Mr Alain Carion
>> Mr Michael Farmer
>> Mr Michel Franco
>> Mr Aziz Habibi
>> Mr Nelson Oakes
>> Mr Bob Verish
>> Mr Greg and Adam Hupe
>> Mr Tracy Latimer
>> Mr Luc Labenne
>> Mr Dean Bessey
>> Mr Matteo Chinellato
>>
>> Scientists:
>> Dr Zenda
>> Dr Grossman
>> Dr Barrat
>> Dr Treiman
>> Dr Huss
>> Dr Gillet
>> Dr Jambon
>> Dr Bunch
>> the whole Meteoritical Society
>> the AMNH of New York
>> the MNHN of Paris
>>
>> And this is only a resume of the thing, it would take days to translate
>> the horrors they are building. As an example they are trying to explain
>> that the MNHN of Paris did send Michel Franco to build a new network
>> for funding Al Queda and they sent that to the French medias...
>>
>> What will be the next step? Child abuse? Drug traffic? If we don't stop
>> them now be sure everybody will get in trouble because of the wonderful
>> hobby we share: meteorites.
>>
>> As your names and private emails have been used by them in a public
>> court and have been transmitted to medias and Customs offices
>> worldwide, you have the right to ask them a translated copy of the way
>> they are using it, you can urge them by law to stop using your names and
>> mails too....
>>
>> We stay available if you need further advices.
>>
>> Sorry to send such a terrible post, but the community should be aware of
>> what is going on.
>>
>> Sincerely,
>>
>> Bruno & Carine
>> La Memoire de la Terre Sarl
>> The Earth's Memory LLC
>> France
>> www.meteorite.fr
>> www.fossile.fr
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "dean bessey" <deanbessey_at_yahoo.com>
>> To: <meteorite-list_at_meteoritecentral.com>
>> Sent: Wednesday, November 24, 2004 6:26 PM
>> Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] SaharaMet Expedition on meteorite impact
>> craters
>>
>>
>> > This is from the pellison guys who says terrorists are
>> > being supported by you meteorite buyers.
>> > In court in France my own name was used in French
>> > court along with my postings to this list as evidence
>> > that I stated terrorists were being supported by our
>> > meteorite buys.
>> > Now I ask every member of this list? Where in the
>> > archaives do I provide evidence that Al Quada is
>> > supported by our buys? This is pure fabrication and
>> > efforts to drive everybody else out of the desert. I
>> > havent seen the court document but I suspect they have
>> > taken some of the moronic fights about exporting
>> > meteorites illegally from morocco that me, farmer, the
>> > hupes and others have sadly gotten involved in in our
>> > efforts to claim that "My meteorites are better than
>> > your meteorites" (Yes, I am as guilty as anybody in
>> > this "My meteorites are better than your meteorites"
>> > crap even though it is not possible to illegally
>> > export meteorites from morocco because there is no law
>> > in morocco saying that you cant do it - go to your
>> > local moroccan embassy if you want confirmation of
>> > what I am saying here).
>> > My suspicion is that they took things out of context
>> > and misquoted what was said taking things out of
>> > context.
>> > So lets see, we have a dealer who is known to have
>> > deliberately misquoted other people and lied about
>> > what was said in postings. We know that the pelissons
>> > are people with no scruples and have no hessitation
>> > about lying. If they willingly lie in court imagine
>> > what they would tell meteorite collectors. Tell me, is
>> > this the type of person that you would buy a meteorite
>> > from? They lied at least twice. How do you know that
>> > they are not lying when they tell you that they never
>> > bought a NWA in morocco from aid mohammad and instead
>> > of selling it for 20 cents a gram like I would do if I
>> > bought a NWA from aid mohammad, they offer it to you
>> > at $2 a gram as their own find? They lied once in a
>> > very orchastrated court fraud and made up a story that
>> > meteorite funds are supporting terrorism.
>> > Does known fakers really need three strikes to be out?
>> > If you pay more than 15 cents a gram for a pellisson
>> > meteorite you are buying something from people with no
>> > more trustworthyness than dealing with a lot of the
>> > moroccans. The pellisons meteorites have no more known
>> > about them than if you buy my 20 cent NWAs. You dont
>> > know where they are from.
>> > And yes, I really am pissed off because my name was
>> > used in french court in a fabricated court case.
>> > Sincerely
>> > DEAN
>> >
>> > --- SaharaMet <SaharaTeam_at_aol.com> wrote:
>> >
>> > >
>> > > A new page on our desert trips:
>> > >
>> > > - Mauritanian Sahara expedition
>> > > - Temimichat and Tenoumer impact craters
>> > > - panoramic views of the craters
>> > > (4000x650 pixels)
>> > > - impactites and shocked granitic rocks
>> > > - story of the journey
>> > >
>> > > Go to:
>> > >
>> > > http://www.saharamet.com/expedition/2003/crater.html
>> > >
>> > > Richard & Roland Pelisson
>> > > SaharaMet
>> > > Sahara expeditions and great meteorite discoveries
>> > > http://www.saharamet.com
>>
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