[meteorite-list] Thank You - Was A fun Libyan Desert Glass Debate

From: dean bessey <deanbessey_at_meteoritecentral.com>
Date: Fri Jun 11 20:57:53 2004
Message-ID: <20040612005752.91111.qmail_at_web12301.mail.yahoo.com>

> It was a fun and spirited discussion about the
> "legality" of trading in / owning prehistoric
> artifacts composed of Libyan Desert Glass.
NO IT WASNT. IT WAS A DISCUSSION WHERE YOU WERE TRYING
TO CONVINCE EVERYBODY THAT PICKING UP A FLAKE OF GLASS
IN THE DESERT WAS ILLEGAL AND YOU MISREPRESENTED A
ARCHAELOGISTS TO MAKE YOUR ARGUEMENT
>a middle ground on this discussion doesn't exist;
NO IT DOES. EXPORTING ARTIFACTS FROM EGYPT IS ILLEGAL.
NOBODY DISPUTED THAT
2.some people find my arguments as unconvincing
ESPECIALLY SINEC YOU ARE MISQUOTING PROFESSIONAL
ARCHAELOGISTS TO MAKE YOUR ARGUEMENTS
> Although I disagree with them,
WHAT EVIDENCE DO YOU HAVE THAT YOU ARE BAISNG YOUR
OPINION ON THAT PICKING UP UNALTERED LDG IS ILLEGAL?
> (It might be fun to write a paper about this topic
> for the Newsletter of the Delta Chapter of the
> Louisiana Archaeological Society or even give a
> talk on it at the Annual Meeting of the Louisiana
> Archaeological Society. It not much, but that is
> best that an amateur like me can expect to do.)
WHY WOULD THEY BE INTERESTED? THEY ARE NOT INTERESTED
IN OLD ROCKS NEVER BEFORE SEEN BY MAN
> I think it would be fun to discuss this topic in
> more detail in about 6 to 7 months,
HOPEFULLY WHEN YOU HAVE SOME ACTUAL FACTS TO ENLIGHTEN
US WITH
>which I can sell; and, in my spare time, research the
>topic of Egyptian artifacts
THIS IS A METEORITE DISCUSSION LIST. THIS IS A VERY
INTERESTING TOPIC AND THERE ARE DISCUSSION GROUPS FOR
IT BUT SINCE THIS IS A METEORITE LIST THIS TOPIC IS
NOT RELEVENT HERE
> An archaeologist friend has suggested that
> interested parties can have a "rematch" on a mailing
>list associated
REMATCH ABOUT WHAT? NOBODY HAS ANY DISAGREEMENTS WITH
YOUR ARCHAELOGISTS. YOUR ARCHAELOGISTS SAID THAT
EXPORTING ARTIFACTS FROM EGYPT IS ILLEGAL - WITHER THE
ARTIFACT IS MADE FROM SILVER, GOLD, SAND OR LDG. AND
EVERYBODY HERE AGREES WITH HIM.
> Finally, this discussion inspired my archaeologist
> lady friend to come up with a "killer" idea for a
> research proposal that the U.S. Customs Service
> and the Egyptian Supreme Council of Antiquites have
> expressed interest in providing joint funding for
> a period of 9 months. Anyway, she thanks you-all
> for all of the always fascinating, entertaining,
> and novel arguments and the inspiration.
NOW WE ARE IN AGREEMENT. I DO BELIEVE THAT THERE
SHOULD BE MORE RESEARCH INTO WHAT HAPPENS WITH
ARTIFACTS, AND HOW COUNTRIES VIEWS THEIR CULTURAL
LAWS, AND HOW THE LAWS LIKE UNESCO AND UNDROIT
PROTECTS OR IS RESPONSIBLE FOR THE DISTRUCTION OF
CULTURAL PROPERTY. A SERIOUS EFFORT SHOULD BE DONE TO
SEE HOW IT WORKS RATHER THAN THE CARTE BLAUNCH
ATTIDUDE THAT CERTAIN COUNTRIES HAVE ABOUT EVERYTHING
WITHER THEY EVEN WANT IT IN A MUSEUM OR WILL DESTROY
IT BECAUSE IT IS SUCH LOW VALUE AND TO EXPENSIVE TO
STORE. IN FACT I WISH THAT I COULD BECOME A PART OF
SUCH A SERIOUS GOVERNMENT EFFORT. I HAVE A LOT OF
OTHER DEALERS WHO WOULD GET INVOLVED TO WHO WANT TO
MAINTAIN A BUSINESS WHILE RESPONSIBLY AQUIREING NEW
ARTIFACTS. IF THERE WERE REASONABLE GUIDLINES DEALERS
WOULD COOPERATE AS WILL AS PEOPLE WHO SEARCH FOR STUFF
AND IT WOULD BE BETTER FOR EVERYBODY.
IF YOU ARE RESPONSIBLE FOR SUCH A SERIOUS STUDY WITH
AN OPEN ATTITUDE YOU COULD WELL BE SOMEBODY WHO IS
FOREVER RESPONSIBLE FOR THE PRESERVATION OF MORE WORLD
CULTURAL PROPERTY THAN ANYBODY ELSE IN THE WORLD.
BRITAIN HAS A CULTURAL LAW TO BE PROUD OF. ANYTHING
NEWLY FOUND HAS TO BE OFFERED TO THE MUSEUM COMMUNITY
AT A PRICE DETERMINED AS FAIR MARKET VALUE BY A GROUP
OF DEALERS. IF NO MUSEUM WANTS IT THEN IT GETS AN
EXPORT PERMIT. A COUNTRY LIKE EGYPT WITHOUT THE
RESOURCES COULD CLAIM ANYTHING THAT THEY WANT TO STORE
OR STUDY AND ANYTHING NOT OF SUFFICIENT INTEREST COULD
BE EXPORTED FREELY WITHOUT BEING DESTROYED. THAT WOULD
BE A REAL CULTURAL LAY THAT WOULD WORK.
BUT THIS IS NOT AN ARTIFACT AN DMY DISCUSSION IS NOT
RELEVENT HERE.
SINCERELY
DEAN


        
                
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Received on Fri 11 Jun 2004 08:57:52 PM PDT