[meteorite-list] Sale - Howardite Blow Out

From: Adam Hupe <raremeteorites_at_meteoritecentral.com>
Date: Thu Sep 23 15:39:09 2004
Message-ID: <012601c4a1a1$ef9459a0$6401a8c0_at_c1720188a>

Hi Mike and List,

This seems to be a very touchy subject so I will address it in general. I
feel that if a pairing is suspected the following should happen:

A proper sized specimen should be liberated from the suspected pairing.

The primary or secondary type specimen should be submitted to an authorized
laboratory. The reason I use the term primary or secondary is because a
pairing has not yet been established.

A NomCom approved scientist should then submit classification data for
consideration. If a pairing is suspected this should be included in the
data.

And finally, it should be voted on to make it official.

We submit a sample from almost every suspected achondrite unless found in
fragmental form. Several unpaired and rare specimens have come from
sticking to this standard. A few examples are:

A stone thought to be a Howardite turned out to be a much rarer Polymict
Diogenite (NWA 1648). A Howardite was found mixed into a batch of NWA 1109
(Polymict Eucrite). The examples go on and on. If somebody is not willing
to submit examples for study they should make it clear that their specimens
are unofficial.

All the best,


------------------------------------
Adam Hupe
The Hupe Collection
Team LunarRock
IMCA 2185
raremeteorites_at_comcast.net



----- Original Message -----
From: "Michael Farmer" <meteoritehunter_at_comcast.net>
To: "Adam Hupe" <raremeteorites_at_comcast.net>; "Bernhard "Rendelius" Rems"
<rendelius_at_rpgdot.com>
Cc: <meteorite-list_at_meteoritecentral.com>
Sent: Thursday, September 23, 2004 11:08 AM
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Sale - Howardite Blow Out


> Ok Adam,. I can accept this from you, sounds clear enough, but what about
> the many kilos of it being sold in Denver by Thompson? What do you
suggest?
> Mike Farmer
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Adam Hupe" <raremeteorites_at_comcast.net>
> To: "Bernhard "Rendelius" Rems" <rendelius_at_rpgdot.com>
> Cc: <meteorite-list_at_meteoritecentral.com>
> Sent: Thursday, September 23, 2004 10:47 AM
> Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Sale - Howardite Blow Out
>
>
> > Hi List,
> >
> > Many will be glad to hear meetings were held in Denver to discuss these
> very
> > issues. As I already stated in our auctions and on the List, a
secondary
> > type specimen was submitted and determined to be paired with NWA 1929 by
> the
> > same laboratory (NAU). NWA 1929 was still in provisional status at that
> > time so more weight could be added. The same scientist determined that
> NWA
> > 1929 was unique enough that there was no question of a pairing and using
> the
> > provisional name NWA 1929 was alright in this case because type
specimens
> > were provided. As we also made very clear from the beginning, we
requested
> a
> > different number and will see if the NomCom adds the weight or uses a
new
> > number already reserved. Everything is by the books, a type specimen
was
> > provided, a NomCom recognized laboratory was hired to study the piece, a
> > scientific report was submitted and a provisional NWA number was
assigned.
> > There is no double standard here.
> >
> > The question about what is being done by the IMCA about NWA 1110 and NWA
> > 1877 is simple to answer. There is nothing they can do because the
> > offending party is not an IMCA member and has no standards or ethics to
be
> > concerned with. What we are doing about is a completely different
matter
> > that will be discussed sometime in the future.
> >
> > Things are going to change greatly over the next year. Some will enjoy
> the
> > changes and others will resist, that's life.
> >
> > You only live life once so there is no time for a rehearsal, do the best
> you
> > can now,
> >
> > ------------------------------------
> > Adam Hupe
> > The Hupe Collection
> > Team LunarRock
> > IMCA 2185
> > raremeteorites_at_comcast.net
> >
> >
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