[meteorite-list] Tucson 05 Retrospective

From: S. Ray DeRusse <srd_at_meteoritecentral.com>
Date: Wed Feb 16 11:45:39 2005
Message-ID: <421378D4.90707_at_ispwest.com>

Now Now Now Mr. Farmer;
    There is no need for name calling. You seem to have quite a bit of
anger derived from being confronted with unsavory facts. We're just
reporting what was conveyed to us from the TCU geology department dean.
We did not say Mr. Ehlmann was not a nice person to you. In fact we do
not agree with much of what the dean said to us about him, but the dean
has a different opinion obviously from experience. Our experience is
related and somewhat different, well documented, and verifiable. Your
anger has quite a grip on you but unfortunately this is not enough to
change the facts. Keep your chin up Mr. Farmer things will get better
eventually.

Cordially,

S. Ray DeRusse
www.bccmeteorites.com
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Michael Farmer wrote:

> Now I know that you are a bitter piece of filth who doesn't have a
> meteorite and it lashing out at the world for it.
> Dr Ehlmann is the nicest man in the world, and knows meteorites better
> than you can imagine, he has curated one of the worlds finest
> collections for decades.
> Why don't you just fade away, and lock yourself and your "meteorites"
> in a cave for a while? Bitterness and hatefulness (and lawsuits) will
> not turn your crappy rocks into meteorites, no matter how much you wish.
> Sincerely
> Mike Farmer
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "S. Ray DeRusse" <srd_at_ispwest.com>
> To: "Notkin" <geoking_at_notkin.net>
> Cc: "Meteorite List" <meteorite-list_at_meteoritecentral.com>
> Sent: Tuesday, February 15, 2005 10:21 PM
> Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Tucson 05 Retrospective
>
>
>> Greetings List;
>>
>> Well, imagine our surprise when we read the thread below. I had a
>> personal conversation with the Dean of the TCU geology department in
>> which he informed me that among other things, Dr. Ehlmann was "barely
>> a geologist and not a very good one at that". He also called him, "an
>> old man just waiting to retire," just a menial curator of a meteorite
>> collection doing no real research". He said more but I don't
>> necessarily agree with everything he Dean said. But it matters not
>> much since in my view this award has very little meaning attached to
>> it because of the group handing it out. Was there some sort of
>> election or nomination procedure involved or posted somewhere? How
>> does this little favoritism scheme and showering of affection work
>> for a group who even his colleague has bad mouthed him this way. Did
>> you include the Dean's viewpoint ? Or did you gather together willy
>> nilly to keep misconduct and racism a fertile nesting ground in
>> planetary science?
>>
>> Cordially,
>> S. Ray DeRusse and Bill Cutler
>> www.bccmeteorites.com
>> ____________________________________________________________________________________________
>>
>>
>> Notkin wrote:
>>
>>> Dear Friends and Listees:
>>>
>>> I've come up for air after a long and sometimes exhausting Tucson
>>> show. This was my first show as a legal resident of the great state
>>> of Arizona and it was a very different experience for me. I had a
>>> house full of overnight guests, hosted the big birthday bash, met
>>> with clients, acted as Allan Lang's auctioneer, bought and traded
>>> for a few collection pieces, and generally ran around like a lunatic
>>> taking care of a million things for nearly three weeks. I think it
>>> was more fun when I used come out here for a vacation each February
>>> . . . but then I had to go back to New York afterwards, and that
>>> part wasn't so fun : )
>>>
>>> I'd like to sincerely thank all of you who joined Steve Arnold IMB
>>> and myself for the Sixth Annual Meteor Mayhem party and Harvey
>>> Awards. The consensus was that the new venue (The Copper Club,
>>> inside the Arizona Plaza) was a HUGE improvement over previous
>>> venues, and I agree. Our many guests were able to move around and
>>> socialize, instead of being pinned behind a crowded restaurant
>>> table, while experiencing lousy waiter service . . . and Steve and I
>>> certainly enjoyed having a stage from which to present the Harvey
>>> Awards. We will return to the Copper Club next year if the hotel
>>> remains open.
>>>
>>> Congrats to the 2005 Harvey Award winners:
>>>
>>> Dr. Art Ehlmann -- Lifetime achievement
>>> Michael Blood -- Ambassador award
>>> Mike Miller -- Best new meteorite find
>>> Ruben Garcia -- Best new meteorite find
>>> Sonny Clary -- Rookie of the year!
>>> Jose Guggiari -- Best new meteorite find
>>> Edwin "E.T." Thompson -- Lifetime achievement
>>>
>>> And remember, you don't have to be "old" to receive a lifetime
>>> achievement award : ) There are many other deserving people in our
>>> community, so stay tuned for next year's awards!
>>>
>>> Low point of the show this year was when somebody stole one of our
>>> Harvey Awards, while they were on display prior to the awards
>>> ceremony. It was somewhat embarrassing that -- thanks to our thief
>>> -- we did not have an award to give to our final recipient (E.T.),
>>> but I was able to make another one, and deliver it to E.T.'s room
>>> before he left for Oregon. I know that Harveys are something of a
>>> hot item, but COME ON that's pretty low. We're going to make a
>>> special "Jackass of the Year" certificate for the person who stole
>>> the award, and we'll leave it out on the table next year, so be sure
>>> to steal that too. Thanks.
>>>
>>> On a more positive note, I'd like to thank Twink & Larry Monrad and
>>> Jim Kriegh for the stunning Gold Basin panorama birthday cake, which
>>> they very kindly brought to the party. This year's cake was the best
>>> ever. Also, thanks to my co-host Steve Arnold IMB, and my great
>>> friend Geoff Cintron who did everything from act as chauffeur to
>>> buying us drinks during the awards; and Lisa Marie Morrison of
>>> Sirocco Design, a very talented jewelry designer, who served as our
>>> glamorous hostess *and* absentee bid agent during the R.A.
>>> Langheinrich auction.
>>>
>>> As always, Michael Blood's auction was a great event (I came home
>>> with the one piece I really wanted) and bigger than ever this year.
>>> Allan Lang's auction on the Sunday was a success too, and I shocked
>>> everyone by showing up in a suit and tie. Well, once a year with the
>>> tie isn't so bad.
>>>
>>> It was a pleasure to finally meet fellow collector Martin Horejsi,
>>> after many years of friendly correspondence. Monnig Gallery Director
>>> Teresa Moss and her husband Lane made their first visit to the show,
>>> and it was particularly nice to see them here, as Teresa, Dr.
>>> Ehlmann, and I have worked closely together on the Monnig Gallery
>>> website.
>>>
>>> Another highlight for me was spending time with genius inventor Bill
>>> Mason. My girlfriend and I joined him for dinner just last night,
>>> and Bill gave me a personal class in working with his meteorite rust
>>> prevention kit. You shoulda seen what it did to my rusty old Brahin!
>>> This product is truly amazing, and if you haven't tried it, you
>>> should. I must also mention that Bill was the recipient of this
>>> year's Charles H. Sternberg Medal from the paleontology community
>>> and the good people at AAPS (www.aaps.net). This is an extremely
>>> high honor, very well deserved, and I'm sure Bill's many friends in
>>> the meteorite community will join me in congratulating him on this
>>> fine achievement.
>>>
>>> Finally, we owe a big vote of thanks to Allan Lang, Bob Haag, and
>>> the other exhibitors at the Westward Look Resort who financed a
>>> special event which made it possible for many of us to listen to,
>>> and meet, famed astronaut Harrison "Jack" Schmitt on Sunday, Feb. 6.
>>> What a superb afternoon that was!
>>>
>>> It was great to see so many of you out here, and I apologize to
>>> those friends whom I saw only briefly or not at all. You'll just
>>> have to come out for a longer visit next year. Oh yes . . . and Dr.
>>> Joel Schiff, I expect see you here for Tucson 2006. There is no
>>> Harvey Award for "Meteorite" magazine until you come out here to
>>> receive it in person (that's because we all want to see you again)
>>> : )
>>>
>>>
>>> Regards to all,
>>>
>>> Geoff N.
>>> (trying to catch up with "real" work in Tucson)
>>>
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