[meteorite-list] Tucson 05 Retrospective

From: M come Meteorite Meteorites <mcomemeteorite2004_at_meteoritecentral.com>
Date: Wed Feb 16 11:52:51 2005
Message-ID: <20050216165249.76099.qmail_at_web50103.mail.yahoo.com>

its type when you have take in turn Dr.A.Rubin where
you have say not work well only why he have say your
material its a fake?

Matteo


 --- "S. Ray DeRusse" <srd_at_ispwest.com> ha scritto:
>
> Now Now Now Mr. Farmer;
> There is no need for name calling. You seem to
> have quite a bit of
> anger derived from being confronted with unsavory
> facts. We're just
> reporting what was conveyed to us from the TCU
> geology department dean.
> We did not say Mr. Ehlmann was not a nice person to
> you. In fact we do
> not agree with much of what the dean said to us
> about him, but the dean
> has a different opinion obviously from experience.
> Our experience is
> related and somewhat different, well documented, and
> verifiable. Your
> anger has quite a grip on you but unfortunately this
> is not enough to
> change the facts. Keep your chin up Mr. Farmer
> things will get better
> eventually.
>
> Cordially,
>
> S. Ray DeRusse
> www.bccmeteorites.com
>
____________________________________________________________________________________________
> Michael Farmer wrote:
>
> > Now I know that you are a bitter piece of filth
> who doesn't have a
> > meteorite and it lashing out at the world for it.
> > Dr Ehlmann is the nicest man in the world, and
> knows meteorites better
> > than you can imagine, he has curated one of the
> worlds finest
> > collections for decades.
> > Why don't you just fade away, and lock yourself
> and your "meteorites"
> > in a cave for a while? Bitterness and hatefulness
> (and lawsuits) will
> > not turn your crappy rocks into meteorites, no
> matter how much you wish.
> > Sincerely
> > Mike Farmer
> > ----- Original Message ----- From: "S. Ray
> DeRusse" <srd_at_ispwest.com>
> > To: "Notkin" <geoking_at_notkin.net>
> > Cc: "Meteorite List"
> <meteorite-list_at_meteoritecentral.com>
> > Sent: Tuesday, February 15, 2005 10:21 PM
> > Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Tucson 05
> Retrospective
> >
> >
> >> Greetings List;
> >>
> >> Well, imagine our surprise when we read the
> thread below. I had a
> >> personal conversation with the Dean of the TCU
> geology department in
> >> which he informed me that among other things, Dr.
> Ehlmann was "barely
> >> a geologist and not a very good one at that". He
> also called him, "an
> >> old man just waiting to retire," just a menial
> curator of a meteorite
> >> collection doing no real research". He said more
> but I don't
> >> necessarily agree with everything he Dean said.
> But it matters not
> >> much since in my view this award has very little
> meaning attached to
> >> it because of the group handing it out. Was there
> some sort of
> >> election or nomination procedure involved or
> posted somewhere? How
> >> does this little favoritism scheme and showering
> of affection work
> >> for a group who even his colleague has bad
> mouthed him this way. Did
> >> you include the Dean's viewpoint ? Or did you
> gather together willy
> >> nilly to keep misconduct and racism a fertile
> nesting ground in
> >> planetary science?
> >>
> >> Cordially,
> >> S. Ray DeRusse and Bill Cutler
> >> www.bccmeteorites.com
> >>
>
____________________________________________________________________________________________
>
> >>
> >>
> >> Notkin wrote:
> >>
> >>> Dear Friends and Listees:
> >>>
> >>> I've come up for air after a long and sometimes
> exhausting Tucson
> >>> show. This was my first show as a legal resident
> of the great state
> >>> of Arizona and it was a very different
> experience for me. I had a
> >>> house full of overnight guests, hosted the big
> birthday bash, met
> >>> with clients, acted as Allan Lang's auctioneer,
> bought and traded
> >>> for a few collection pieces, and generally ran
> around like a lunatic
> >>> taking care of a million things for nearly three
> weeks. I think it
> >>> was more fun when I used come out here for a
> vacation each February
> >>> . . . but then I had to go back to New York
> afterwards, and that
> >>> part wasn't so fun : )
> >>>
> >>> I'd like to sincerely thank all of you who
> joined Steve Arnold IMB
> >>> and myself for the Sixth Annual Meteor Mayhem
> party and Harvey
> >>> Awards. The consensus was that the new venue
> (The Copper Club,
> >>> inside the Arizona Plaza) was a HUGE improvement
> over previous
> >>> venues, and I agree. Our many guests were able
> to move around and
> >>> socialize, instead of being pinned behind a
> crowded restaurant
> >>> table, while experiencing lousy waiter service .
> . . and Steve and I
> >>> certainly enjoyed having a stage from which to
> present the Harvey
> >>> Awards. We will return to the Copper Club next
> year if the hotel
> >>> remains open.
> >>>
> >>> Congrats to the 2005 Harvey Award winners:
> >>>
> >>> Dr. Art Ehlmann -- Lifetime achievement
> >>> Michael Blood -- Ambassador award
> >>> Mike Miller -- Best new meteorite find
> >>> Ruben Garcia -- Best new meteorite find
> >>> Sonny Clary -- Rookie of the year!
> >>> Jose Guggiari -- Best new meteorite find
> >>> Edwin "E.T." Thompson -- Lifetime achievement
> >>>
> >>> And remember, you don't have to be "old" to
> receive a lifetime
> >>> achievement award : ) There are many other
> deserving people in our
> >>> community, so stay tuned for next year's awards!
> >>>
> >>> Low point of the show this year was when
> somebody stole one of our
> >>> Harvey Awards, while they were on display prior
> to the awards
> >>> ceremony. It was somewhat embarrassing that --
> thanks to our thief
> >>> -- we did not have an award to give to our final
> recipient (E.T.),
> >>> but I was able to make another one, and deliver
> it to E.T.'s room
> >>> before he left for Oregon. I know that Harveys
> are something of a
> >>> hot item, but COME ON that's pretty low. We're
> going to make a
> >>> special "Jackass of the Year" certificate for
> the person who stole
> >>> the award, and we'll leave it out on the table
> next year, so be sure
> >>> to steal that too. Thanks.
> >>>
> >>> On a more positive note, I'd like to thank Twink
> & Larry Monrad and
> >>> Jim Kriegh for the stunning Gold Basin panorama
> birthday cake, which
> >>> they very kindly brought to the party. This
> year's cake was the best
> >>> ever. Also, thanks to my co-host Steve Arnold
> IMB, and my great
> >>> friend Geoff Cintron who did everything from act
> as chauffeur to
> >>> buying us drinks during the awards; and Lisa
> Marie Morrison of
> >>> Sirocco Design, a very talented jewelry
> designer, who served as our
> >>> glamorous hostess *and* absentee bid agent
> during the R.A.
> >>> Langheinrich auction.
> >>>
> >>> As always, Michael Blood's auction was a great
> event (I came home
> >>> with the one piece I really wanted) and bigger
> than ever this year.
> >>> Allan Lang's auction on the Sunday was a success
> too, and I shocked
> >>> everyone by showing up in a suit and tie. Well,
> once a year with the
>
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