[meteorite-list] I am home from Tokyo

From: Michael Farmer <meteoritehunter_at_meteoritecentral.com>
Date: Tue Jun 7 09:30:09 2005
Message-ID: <004b01c56b65$0c651ff0$0200a8c0_at_S0031628003>

Because a group of other dealers all complained that there were too many
meteorite dealers. Since we were not confirmed in advance, they sold us a
table, and then took it away.
Mike Farmer
----- Original Message -----
From: "Walter Branch" <branchw_at_bellsouth.net>
To: "Michael Farmer" <meteoritehunter_at_comcast.net>;
<meteorite-list_at_meteoritecentral.com>
Sent: Tuesday, June 07, 2005 4:06 AM
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] I am home from Tokyo


> Hi Mike,
>
> I confess, I don't understand.
> Why, exactly, were you kicked out of the show?
>
> -Water Branch
>
> ---------------------------------------------
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Michael Farmer" <meteoritehunter_at_comcast.net>
> To: <meteorite-list_at_meteoritecentral.com>
> Sent: Tuesday, June 07, 2005 2:29 AM
> Subject: [meteorite-list] I am home from Tokyo
>
>
>> Hi everyone,
>> I am home a little early from Tokyo, and am preparing now for the
> Ensishiem
>> and St Marie aux Mines shows in France. Anyone who wants anything, let me
>> know now so that I can prepare it, ship it, or bring it to France. I will
> be
>> traveling on from there back to Asia, and will not be bringing much at
>> all
>> to Europe. So please make your requests now.
>>
>> On to other business:
>>
>> Just a quick note about the Tokyo show, and just to squash any rumors
> before
>> they start, something occurred there that needs to be addressed now, not
>> when people start spreading rumors.
>>
>> Hans Koser and I went to Tokyo, and managed to acquire a table at the
>> show, directly from the show owner, when another dealers material was
> stuck
>> in customs.
>> That table unfortunately was next to Marvin and Kitty Kilgore. We agreed
>> from the start not to put meteorite specimens on the table (as this would
>> compete too much with Marvin). Hans and I both had mineral specimens, and
>> meteorite jewelry, spheres, and eggs made of meteorites.
>> Within an hour of setting up the table (the show had already started)
> there
>> was a meeting with Marvin Kilgore and Bud Eisler. The complained to the
> show
>> owner several times, then Kitty Kilgore came in and saw us there and she
> got
>> the show owner, then they forced us to be kicked out of the show. There
> was
>> of course, an argument and although nothing serious, there was no
> happiness
>> between Hans, myself nor Marvin. He tried to explain that it was not
>> personal, only business.
>> Of course, any of you can imagine how much it costs to go to Tokyo,
> shipping
>> material, then being thrown out of the show barely two hours after it
>> opened. This was not a nice thing to do, and we had only jewelry and
>> manufactured items on our table, Kilgore had none of that, only large
>> specimens for sale. Eisler did have lots of meteorite jewelry, but he was
>> nowhere near us.
>> This is a pretty bad situation, and no need to make it worse with
>> rumors. It was several dealers being jealous and not wanting competition
> at
>> a show, and that was that. Since I have never attended that show, the
>> show
>> owner bowed to the complaints of Bruno and Carine, Marvin, and Eisler and
>> kicked us out. Bruno complained to me the moment he saw me in Tokyo.
>> Any of you who know Hans Koser knows that he is the nicest guy in the
>> world, who works on very little money, and who this hurt extremely badly.
> He
>> did not deserve that sort of treatment, nor did I as I hardly know Bud
>> Eisler (even though he lives in Tucson) and have always considered Marvin
> a
>> close friend. Needless to say, that is over with this action.
>>
>> There are two sides to every story, and Marvin tried to tell me that he
> was
>> kicked out of there before and it was then only fair that I got kicked
>> out
>> ( I don't buy that argument at all), and that there were too many
> meteorite
>> dealers there (again, so what) and those things made it ok to kick two
>> friends to the curb and force them to lose $4000 to $6000 each in
> expenses!
>> There were many witnesses to what happened, and if you don't believe me,
> ask
>> Hans.
>>
>> I am a firm believer in "what goes around, comes around".
>>
>> Mike Farmer
>>
>>
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