[meteorite-list] I had a pretty large problem with an E-bay transaction.
From: Arizona Skies Meteorites <johnbirdsell_at_meteoritecentral.com>
Date: Fri Sep 30 14:15:38 2005 Message-ID: <20050930181536.69507.qmail_at_web51502.mail.yahoo.com> Hello Ivan and thanks for the information about MoneyBookers. That sounds as though that may be something worth looking into. Cheers -John & Dawn Arizona Skies Meteorites http://www.arizonaskiesmeteorites.com --- ivanmete <ivanmete_at_cox.net> wrote: --------------------------------- Hello Arizona, and List! I use a new money transfer system, named moneybookers. It is the same like PayPal, but has some difference. (European online transfer money system, based on UK). 1. Sender pay fees, not receiver. Fees is not high, 1% of amount but not more than 70 cents or 50 eurocents per transfer. PayPal like 30 cents plus 2.9% from amount for standard account. 2. Moneybookers has an escrow payment: (here is from help topic) What if the Seller does not ship the items? - Funds will not be released to the Seller until the buyer has received and approved the items he is purchasing. This eliminates the concern for non-shipment of goods. How can an Escrow payment be cancelled? - The seller may cancel the transaction at any time and the payment and security deposit would then be returned to the buyer. The buyer may reject the transaction during the inspection period after receiving the items, but the buyer is still responsible for shipping the merchandise back to the seller, and for paying any fees. For which purposes can I use Moneybookers Escrow for? - Our escrow service is ideal for auction payments, domain name transfers and any other type of national or international trading. PayPal :(also from help menu) Are you an escrow service? - No. We do not provide escrow-related services. We are a person-to-person payment service that enables instant and secure electronic payments. If you have a new customer or do not trust somebody, just use escrow. It is cost something, but you are feeling better. When I start use moneybookers, my oversee auctions grown up. You can add logo of moneybookers to your auctions the same way as PayPal does. If you are a seller you will get more bids from Europe and other oversee, also from countries which PayPal doesn't accept. Did you know that now there are many Russians (I'm not alone) start collect meteorites, but have a difficulties use PayPal or other money transfer? Moneybookers works for Russia too. Also safe on PayPal fees (and this is a lot!) If you a buyer, pay maximum $.70 fee and your seller would be happy, because there no fees for seller. Learn more about Moneybookers here: http://www.moneybookers.com/app/?rid=1308477 Friday, September 30, 2005, 3:45:26 AM, you wrote: > Hi Mike and thanks for your post. This should be a > warning to EVERYONE! We had the same thing happen on > an expensive ebay purchase. The seller kept saying > that our order would arrive "soon"...of course it > never arrived. By the time we had decided to report > the seller to ebay and paypal, it was too late. Paypal > likes to pretend that they are the "safest" way to pay > for items, but you are out of luck if the item never > arrives or is not as described and you have waited > longer than the very limited time they allow you to > report a problem. This is why eveyone that uses paypal > should ALWAYS, ALWAYS, ALWAYS choose their credit card > as a payment source. Paypal does not like it when you > do this and they try very hard to trick you into using > an e-check or a transfer from your bank account. Don't > fall for this. Always use your credit card as the > funding source! That way you can file a chargeback > dispute against the seller if you don't receive the > merchandise as described. Paypal won't tell you that > you can file a chargeback either as they don't want > you to know about it. In fact paypal will sometimes > actively try to dispute your chargeback as they tried > unsucessfully in our case. > Another VERY IMPORTANT warning regarding paypal is > that you should always remove ALL of your funds from > your account BEFORE you pay w/ a credit card. > Otherwise, paypal will use all of the funds in your > paypal account and only then after the funds are used, > charge the remaining balance due to your credit card. > This is what paypal does even when your specifically > indicate that you want the purchase to be funded by > your credit card. We feel that this is a very > misleading practice on the part of paypal, however if > you read the fine print of your paypal contract very > carefully, it states that they can do this. > The final note on this...Fortuntately, on our purchase > we used our credit card and only lost a small amount > of funds from our paypal account. We filed a dispute > w/ our credit card company, paypal tried to claim that > we had received the merchandise (which we had not), > and our credit card company credited our account for > the full amount of the purchase. The seller was > delisted from ebay (he did the same thing to 10-15 > other buyers), and eventually declared chapter 11 > bankruptcy! > Hope this story along with Mike Miller's serve as a > warning for everyone. > Cheers > -John > --- Mike / flattoprocks <mikewm_at_npgcable.com> wrote: >> Hello everyone I purchased a $1500 item on E-bay >> it was an overseas >> purchase and I waited too long to report it to >> Pay-Pal or E-bay. I want to >> let everyone know who the seller is and what >> happened in case they ever want >> to deal with this person or have a dispute they need >> resolved. Right now I >> am wondering if it is ok to post the persons E-bay >> name on the list? >> Mike Miller // E-Bay flattoprocks >> Website // www.meteoritefinder.com >> Check out the web site it is up and running! >> Mike Miller 230 Greenway Rd. Kingman AZ 86401 >> >> >> ______________________________________________ >> Meteorite-list mailing list >> Meteorite-list_at_meteoritecentral.com > http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list >> > Arizona Skies Meteorites > ______________________________________________ > Meteorite-list mailing list > Meteorite-list_at_meteoritecentral.com > http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list Did you know you could have saved up to 60% on this and on all eBay auctions? http://www.powersnipe.com/?af=kirgudu Best regards, finmet on ebay http://cgi3.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewUserPage&userid=finmet Please check my partners on ebay: aniramq http://search.ebay.com/_W0QQsassZaniramqQQhtZ-1QQfrppZ200QQfsopZ1QQfsooZ1QQrdZ0? and ataxite http://search.ebay.com/_W0QQfrppZ200QQfsooZ1QQfsopZ1QQrdZ0QQsassZataxite Best regards, Ivan, finmet > ______________________________________________ > Meteorite-list mailing list > Meteorite-list_at_meteoritecentral.com > http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list > Arizona Skies Meteorites Received on Fri 30 Sep 2005 02:15:35 PM PDT |
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