[meteorite-list] An open message to all list members

From: joseph_town_at_att.net <joseph_town_at_meteoritecentral.com>
Date: Mon Aug 28 11:31:29 2006
Message-ID: <082720062306.16910.44F22587000D7AA80000420E21603759640299019BA1089F0A9C0106_at_att.net>

Sorry,

It's very good practice to correct an improper ad. It doesn't matter if the info is intentionally misleading or the result of incompetence. Newbies like me need the help of well informed members to save us dollars and grief.

Bill

 -------------- Original message ----------------------
From: "Paul Barford" <pbarford_at_pro.onet.pl>
> Dave Carothers warns:
> > WE as a community have REAL problems. <
> Dressing mud-slinging up in self-righteous verbiage about "doing it for the
> good of the community" is just a smokescreen.
> I think it is arrogant to think there is only one person here who can check
> or comprehend what they read in an advert on eBay.
>
> It seems to me that, despite denials, somebody here bears a grudge and are
> expressing it in a most unpleasantly smug manner which hardly inspires
> confidence in their motivation, character or judgement.
>
> My feeling is that issues like this would be best restricted to off-list
> correspondence. And whether or not Mr Arnold subsequently wishes to change
> the text of his advert is surely up to him, he alone is responsible for his
> own words. And anyway, caveat emptor.
>
> Private emails have again been posted on the list (which I believe is
> against the rules).
>
> In any case the ebay ad does not read as Carothers reported. See
> http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=290023409215
>
> Carothers continues:
> > I see Steve (Chicago) Arnold as a direct threat to this great
> > hobby
> Hmm, rather an exaggeration isnt it? I rather think this constant bitching
> and back-biting we find all too much of on this list is a greater direct
> threat to the hobby. The repetetivity of this kind of exhibition will merely
> make a laughing stock of the whole milieu.
>
> > I've going to be your own personal Ralph Nader. Every time
> > you post a misleading/untruthful/fraudulent ad, I'm going to
> > expose it... publicly. [...] someone needs to expose you for
> > what you are.”
> It might be a novel idea to suggest, but perhaps we could use the list to
> talk about meteorites and not persue private vendettas against other list
> members? Please? You are really helping nobody here.
>
> > I’m hoping the publicity and peer pressure will convince
> > Steve (Chicago) Arnold develop a different set of morals.
> Though yet another ungrammatical sentence, that sounds awfully
> self-righteous. I know nothing of Mr Arnold's "morals", nor would I presume
> to judge them from an eBay ad.
>
>
> Mr Carothers, in future, please leave me off the list of addressees of such
> "open letters", I really dont want to receive any more such spam with filled
> with pettiness and 'holier than thou' smugness. And I would not be
> surprised to find that I am the only list member who feels like this. Thank
> you.
>
> Paul Barford
>
>
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Received on Sun 27 Aug 2006 07:06:48 PM PDT