[meteorite-list] Fusion Crust on Irons

From: Bill <glixard_at_meteoritecentral.com>
Date: Wed, 6 Dec 2006 12:26:03 -0800
Message-ID: <748D444668E.0000050Aglixard_at_inbox.com>

Martin,

You're right about that of course. No need to beat the dealer drum. I was thinking more about the 1000's of small Sikhote's that were sold on ebay.

Bill



> -----Original Message-----
> From: altmann at meteorite-martin.de
> Sent: Wed, 6 Dec 2006 08:56:19 +0100
> To: glixard at inbox.com, meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com
> Subject: AW: [meteorite-list] Fusion Crust on Irons
>
> Only one of them,
> they aren't relatives.
>
> And honestly - if you bother, when you get a pallasite, which costed
> before
> 10-15$/g at 300$/kg; a CO3 fall, which costed before 50-150$/g at 2.5$/g;
> a
> MES; which was unavailable before at 5$/g; a cumulate Euc, where you paid
> 25$/g at 1.5$/g; irons, which costed 2-5$/g at 250$/kg, another PAL,
> which
> was available only every 10 years in minute amounts, at 300$/kg; a low
> tkw-fall, good for 25$/g at 1.5$/g; the most beautiful iron, which was
> priced at 5-9$/g at 300$/kg; good ol classic stones with names, all good
> for
> 2-4$/g at 0.4-0.6$/g; lunaites, where people paid 3500-5500/g before at
> 200-700$/g; a Mars, which is paid today with 500$/g at 100-150$/g; OCs
> with
> all find data cheaper than unclassified NWAs...
> ...stones and irons, where you earned good money in reselling them,
>
> if you bother there, whether you paid 10 bucks to much for shipment,
> then I guess, you missed the right field of collecting and you'd rather
> should collect beer bottle labels, but not meteorites.
> Or you'd rather should not buy meteorites, but to try to hunt them.
> You'll be astonished, how extreme expensive it will be, to find such
> amounts, like the Russians did, call us, when you've found your first 10
> lunaites :-), I'll pay you 10$ excess for shipping them in small polished
> slices at 200$/g to me.
>
> Chirp,
> Martin
>
> Now at the Hamburg show.
>
>
>
>
>
> -----Urspr?ngliche Nachricht-----
> Von: meteorite-list-bounces at meteoritecentral.com
> [mailto:meteorite-list-bounces at meteoritecentral.com] Im Auftrag von Bill
> Gesendet: Mittwoch, 6. Dezember 2006 08:19
> An: meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com
> Betreff: Re: [meteorite-list] Fusion Crust on Irons
>
> Didn't those heroes charge a pretty steep shipping charge for even the
> smallest particle? I suppose the "smart" buyer bought according to the
> combined offer but what about the hundreds maybe thousands of uninitiated
> buyers that paid the charge for a few grams. I'll pass on the medal
> ceremony.
>
> Bill
>
>
>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: altmann at meteorite-martin.de
>> Sent: Tue, 5 Dec 2006 11:01:24 +0100
>> To: h3chondrite at cox.net, meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com
>> Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Fusion Crust on Irons
>>
>> Hi John,
>>
>> no, I'd doubt that. At those prices having paid during the last 5 years,
>> any
>> additional work on the smaller Sikhote-Alins had to be avoided, else it
>> would be economically nonsensical.
>> I think to hunt them, to carry them down from the mountains, to derust
>> them,
>> to transport them to Western-Europe and USA, but then getting out not
>> more
>> than 150$/kg even for the nicest individuals on ebay, (additional
>> paypal-fees, ebay provision, currency exchange losses) as it was the
>> case
>> until 1 year ago, simply wouldn't justfy to burn each piece blue or to
>> use
>> expensive gun oils.
>> And if I look back - most Russian suppliers always sold extremely
>> cleaned
>> Sikhotes, brushed, tmbled, etched and grinded down until the iron was a
>> shiny silver. I never liked that style, but I observed, as Sikhote-Alin
>> was
>> always the first choice of non-meteoriticistical buyers, that they got
>> higher prices than nicer, not so radically cleaned Sikhotes, because the
>> laymen thought, that it would be a spot of bother, if there would be
>> dark
>> spots or even spots of rust left.
>> I remember, that I had always to place an extra order, to get some not
>> so
>> down-cleaned, where beside some rust, here and there some blue, or some
>> remainders of crust could be found, simply because most suppliers had
>> only
>> silverware.
>>
>> Now, where Sikhote stongly is raising again in price, it might be a
>> temptation to refurbish some of them, but unfortunately the strewnfield
>> is
>> exhausted and almost only shrapnels are still found.
>>
>> Thus a toast from the collectors for our Russian heroes,
>> who supplied and are supplying the market with the nicest and most
>> interesting meteorites, always bringing the price down to a small
>> fraction
>> of that, what it cost before - which never should be a cause for a
>> collector, to disesteem those locales!
>> The older will remember, when Sikhote cost 5$-9$/g, a Kainsaz 50$ and
>> how
>> many of us would be horny for Brahin, never complaining about its
>> stability,
>> if it would be so difficult available as 10, 15 years ago, when it cost
>> as
>> much as an Imilac, a Fukang, and sometimes even as Finmarken.
>>
>> Buckleboo!
>> Martin
>>
>> -----Urspr?ngliche Nachricht-----
>> Von: meteorite-list-bounces at meteoritecentral.com
>> [mailto:meteorite-list-bounces at meteoritecentral.com] Im Auftrag von
>> JKGwilliam
>> Gesendet: Dienstag, 5. Dezember 2006 05:19
>> An: Mike Bandli; gary at webbers.com; meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com
>> Betreff: Re: [meteorite-list] Fusion Crust on Irons
>>
>> Does anyone besides me believe that many of the Sikhote-Alin irons have
>> been "doctored" to look better than they really are? Over the past
>> several
>> years I've heard several stories (rumors) that a lot of creative work
>> has
>> been used to make some of the SAs look as good as they do. One of the
>> stories actually involved the application of liquid gun blueing. I've
>> seen
>> pictures of some of these beautiful specimens right out of the ground
>> and
>> they are pretty rusty.
>>
>> Best,
>> John
>>
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