[meteorite-list] Carrying idiots to Newcastle (and back)

From: Jason Utas <meteoritekid_at_meteoritecentral.com>
Date: Wed, 26 Dec 2007 02:19:49 -0800
Message-ID: <93aaac890712260219o4db0c301id54ae7d1f0cddb9f_at_mail.gmail.com>


I said I wouldn't argue the point anymore, but this is just insulting
- after I say I'm to leave, you repeatedly bash me? You're going into
overkill here - one might almost think you're compensating for your
own beliefs with this little romp-around.

Sterling himself just told you that the neutron release from an impact
would be negligible compared to the levels about which you've been
He's the one disagreeing with you at this point; I've already told you
that I've had enough of this idiotic discussion; as Darren (not
'Darryl,' as you incorrectly noted) put it, it's nothing but a waste
of time to try to explain to you what the concept of 'proof' means, so
there's no point in perpetuating your idiocy for all to read. I had
enough of this BS - if you want more of my end, by all means, try to
draw me out, but, to be perfectly frank, I feel much less inclined to
keep this argument even remotely civil given what you've just said.

At this point, it's clear; the only person here who knows less than
impacts (out of the three of us) than me, is you, and I'm sure that if
anyone else saw any insanity in my so-called ravings, etc, etc, I'm
sure they'd tell me - they've certainly known me for long enough.
Whereas I admitted that my knowledge was limited, and based on my
understanding of Physics B (no calculus involved, though I'm learning
that in another class), you failed to provide any mathematical or
otherwise relevant credentials on your part when confronted with the
question, ignoring it completely, as I'm sure you will again should
you reply to this message (though now that I've said this, you might
actually deal with it - who knows?).

Though I'm glad you saw the need to apologize...even if you did it for
the wrong person.

I'll round this off with two quotes I think you should actually read,
whether or not you decide to read whatever else I've written over the
past week in the near future.

It is better to keep your mouth closed and let people think you are a
fool than to open it and remove all doubt.
Mark Twain (1835 - 1910)

Talk sense to a fool and he calls you foolish.
Euripides (484 BC - 406 BC)

I'd say this is it for me, but if you continue with your...I have no
other way of describing it other than 'immature' - messages (there's a
reason no one is standing up and agreeing with you on any point you've
so far put forth, in case you might not have noticed this *fact*), I
probably will reply, seeing as we've left the arena of scientific
discussion and you've now successfully, as I'm sure you wanted,
brought it to blows.


On Dec 25, 2007 10:26 PM, E.P. Grondine <epgrondine at yahoo.com> wrote:
> Hi all -
> For those trying to work out the pathology of Jason's
> mental defect, consider his claim here:
> >And you call me biased....maybe to the 'theory' that
> KE = 1/2mv^2, I suppose.
> >I've only been arguing based on impact dynamics and
> >known facts.
> You know and I know and (nearly) everyone else here
> knows that Jason's understanding of impact dynamics is
> nil, zero, zip, nada. Sterling has been through them
> with him again and again and again and again and
> again, and they still don't sink in - as for some
> strange reason Jason thinks that he already knows
> them.
> As Jason's obliviousness extends to the hard data, I
> give up. Not another minute of my time.
> As Jason's ravings are not only interfering with the
> Arctic Iron search, but have also taken away important
> space for commercial notices, my apologies not only to
> the hunters but to the dealers here as well.
> good hunting, and a prosperous new year to all,
> E.P. Grondine
> Man and Impact in the Americas
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