[meteorite-list] Rocks from Space Picture of the Day - February 2, 2010

From: Alexander Seidel <gsac_at_meteoritecentral.com>
Date: Tue, 02 Feb 2010 19:10:45 +0100
Message-ID: <20100202181045.311800_at_gmx.net>

Just by the way, and it may seem quite a bit off-topic for some of you, but I can?t help to just comment on Martin?s remark here: I totally agree with him in this case, I am absolutely with him. Well, it?s not just plain off-topic, folks, since photos mediated through this very forum were actually showing cheers of joy for weapons and pointing these at others or all around, and I?m nothing but just commenting on this and please don?t get me wrong at this point: I very much RESPECT the special American way of looking at that kind of thing, I well know it has a profound cultural background, and I realize you have quite a liberal attitude towards guns and weapons, and at the same time I won?t talk about other different cultural aspects in degrees of freedom and liberalism, as the list rules won?t allow this, because this is a list about meteorites! But then again let me allow to just send this very humble short comment from my end of the line here, on the actual topic.

Well, sorry for this short interference, guys and gals. The other thing I?d like to say is: have fun in Tucson! And please make tons of pics available to us Europeans, who unfortunately can?t travel to the very place! :-)

Alex
Berlin/Germany
   

-------- Original-Nachricht --------
> Datum: Tue, 2 Feb 2010 18:16:37 +0100
> Von: "Martin Altmann" <altmann at meteorite-martin.de>
> An: Meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com
> Betreff: Re: [meteorite-list] Rocks from Space Picture of the Day - February 2, 2010

> Life would be somewhat easier, if people could agree to use spoons to
> defend
> themselves or to kill eachother.
>
> The imagination to be in Tucson, where a Chicago-Steve is allowed to wear
> a
> gun and to enter my room to shoot his beloved holes in the Campos, isn't a
> directly comfort one....
>
> Martin
>
> (Germany: >80 million people -> 269 murders with firearms in 2002
> USA 300 million -> 9,369 .... )
>
> -----Urspr?ngliche Nachricht-----
> Von: meteorite-list-bounces at meteoritecentral.com
> [mailto:meteorite-list-bounces at meteoritecentral.com] Im Auftrag von
> countdeiro at earthlink.net
> Gesendet: Dienstag, 2. Februar 2010 17:57
> An: Michael Johnson; meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com
> Betreff: Re: [meteorite-list] Rocks from Space Picture of the Day -
> February
> 2, 2010
>
> To the "Tucson Wild Bunch",
>
> >>From the photos recently posted there must be more than a few folks
> going
> "heavy" at the show. That's cool with me as there is a lot of value laying
> around in those hotel rooms and I am an NRA Certified Instructor in Armed
> Personal Protection, Fire Arm Safety, Refuse to be a Victim and Pistol
> classifications. What was shown in this photo took me aback.
>
> Now, the lecture. (Anne Black, for one will like this.) I trust that the
> semi-auto pistol being pointed, with finger on the trigger, at two of my
> favorite meteor guys is a phony...because if it wasn't ...the young lady
> should be chastised and somebody should have known better.
>
> I've noticed in the past week there have been several photos of
> "pistoleros"
> at the Tucson show brandishing firearms posted to the List. Notably the
> pics
> of the semi-auto assault rifles at the Inn Suites. These photos give
> cannon
> fodder to those who would like to take your second amendment rights away
> and
> ban the civilian ownership of all firearms. They also scare the geese.
>
> Obtain your firearms legally. Store, handle and use them safely. Sell,
> trade
> or dispose of them responsibly. Make a point of educating others,
> especially
> young people, to accept the presence and legitimate use of firearms by
> your
> own personal example. (This was a lost opportunity.)
>
> Those of us who possess a firearm for self-defense should know and be
> prepared to follow these recognized use of lethal force protocols:
>
> 1. Are you, or a person in your presence, threatened with imminent death,
> or
> great bodily harm? (The use of lethal force to protect property,
> especially
> meteorites, is not condoned in most jurisdictions.)
> 2. Can you clearly see and identify the source of the threat? (Firing
> though
> a door is likely to off a husband coming home late.)
> 3. Is the potential assailant capable of carrying out the threat? (Don't
> shoot an 80 year old grandma in a wheel chair wielding a baseball bat.)
> 4. If the answer to all the above is in the affirmative then it is
> reccommended by most authorities to defensively fire two shots to the
> center
> of mass and look for a desired result. (It's not a good idea to say that
> you
> will, or did "shoot to kill".)
>
> I am not a lawyer and these statements are not to be considered legal
> advice. They were obtained from what I believe are reliable sources, but
> are
> not guaranteed, or implied, to be used as a defense in any manner
> involving
> the use of a firearm.
>
> On to Tucson!
>
> -----Original Message-----
> >From: Michael Johnson <michael at rocksfromspace.org>
> >Sent: Feb 2, 2010 8:29 AM
> >To: meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com
> >Subject: [meteorite-list] Rocks from Space Picture of the Day - February
> 2,
> 2010
> >
> >http://www.rocksfromspace.org/February_2_2010.html
> >
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