[meteorite-list] Angrite with 1cm Translucent crystals... a WOW moment!

From: Greg Stanley <stanleygregr_at_meteoritecentral.com>
Date: Wed, 23 Jun 2010 10:43:39 -0700
Message-ID: <SNT117-W26DC915133B6D75A6A5EF2D2C50_at_phx.gbl>

Greg:

Do you know what mineral the 1 cm crystal is?

Thanks,

Greg S.

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> Date: Wed, 23 Jun 2010 10:04:51 -0700
> From: star_wars_collector at yahoo.com
> To: meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com; geohiggins at yahoo.com
> Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Angrite with 1cm Translucent crystals... a WOW moment!
>
> I think the proper etiquette for a fellow IMCA
>> member is to:
>
> As you said, that is your thoughts.
>
> I own the material. I am the one paying for the testing. If I want to share photos of the material, its well within my right to do so. Should the IMCA have an issue with my sharing pictures of my material, they can end my membership today.
> However, that said, I think the IMCA would have more issue with your unwarranted public attack of me for sharing my photos rather then my sharing of photos.
>
> Remember, not ONCE have I offered to sell this material on here.
>
> Tony Irving told me it is paired with NWA 2999. If you feel that is not correct, take the issue up with him. I will trust his opinions until proven otherwise.
>
> That said, I hope everyone is doing good today, I am sorry for my public replies to this, but with the claims made, I felt a public reply was needed.
>
>
> Greg Catterton
> www.wanderingstarmeteorites.com
> IMCA member 4682
> On Ebay: http://stores.shop.ebay.com/wanderingstarmeteorites
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>
>
> --- On Wed, 6/23/10, John higgins wrote:
>
>> From: John higgins
>> Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Angrite with 1cm Translucent crystals... a WOW moment!
>> To: meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com
>> Date: Wednesday, June 23, 2010, 12:43 PM
>> Hi Greg,
>>
>> There is no double standard that applies to you and nobody
>> else!
>>
>>
>> The last time I checked the meteorite classification is a
>> scientific process. This purely scientific process does
>> indeed have rules in place so that we can learn about new
>> Meteorites in a logical manner. Not one based on emotional
>> decisions. I think the proper etiquette for a fellow IMCA
>> member is to:
>>
>> First: Wait for the meteorite to
>> first be provisional before you announce it
>>
>> Secondly: Release the scientific data to the scientific
>> community at large so they can examine the data
>>
>> Third: Announce any possible
>> pairings if any have been indicated and cross checked,
>> mentioning in a clearly detailed manner why and how
>> the two stones may be possibly paired. Also you should give
>> time for the scientific community to confirm or prove wrong
>> your possible pairing.
>>
>> Fourth: Once the new meteorite is
>> official, then carefully consider making a claim that can
>> have a substantial impact on other IMCA members.
>>
>> The last one is just a matter of common courtesy and
>> professionalism
>> I think Jumping the whole scientific process and skipping
>> right to the end, is indeed breaking the rules.
>>
>> But that's just my 2 cents
>>
>> John Higgins
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----
>> From: Greg Catterton
>> To: John higgins
>> Sent: Wed, June 23, 2010 11:57:57 AM
>> Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Angrite with 1cm Translucent
>> crystals... a WOW moment!
>>
>> wait a minute before you claim I am breaking rules... this
>> was told to me by TONY IRVING after he tested it. He also
>> tested NWA 2999.
>> Feel free to ask Tony.
>>
>> Greg Catterton
>> www.wanderingstarmeteorites.com
>> IMCA member 4682
>> On Ebay: http://stores.shop.ebay.com/wanderingstarmeteorites
>> On Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/WanderingStarMeteorites
>>
>>
>> --- On Wed, 6/23/10, John higgins
>> wrote:
>>
>>> From: John higgins
>>> Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Angrite with 1cm
>> Translucent crystals... a WOW moment!
>>> To: meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com
>>> Date: Wednesday, June 23, 2010, 8:29 AM
>>> Very interesting meteorite,
>>> Congratulations Greg!
>>>
>>> I also agree with Adam. I would really like to see all
>> the
>>> supporting data, what are the classification results
>> and
>>> provisional number? I'ts not proper conduct for a
>> IMCA
>>> member to make unsubstantiated claims or jump the gun
>> on
>>> preliminary testing. I would like to see this new
>> Angrite
>>> double and triple checked, and recognized as a
>> official
>>> meteorite before such claims are made, especially
>> since its
>>> a IMCA member making such claims. I wouldn't mind so
>> much if
>>> the claimed pairings looked identical and had very
>> strong
>>> supporting evidence, but one look at the new stone and
>> this
>>> is clearly not the case. More testing must be done,
>> and
>>> supporting evidence is nowhere to be found.
>>>
>>> I don't want to come off as mean, but I think this
>> story is
>>> kind of ironic coming from a guy who just shot down
>> every
>>> dealer who sells NWA 869, then turns around and breaks
>> the
>>> rules, that damages the integrity of the
>> classification
>>> process...
>>>
>>> Good Luck on the next steps of the classification
>> process
>>> of this new and exciting meteorite!
>>>
>>> Have a Great Day!
>>> John Higgins
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message ----
>>> From: Adam Hupe
>>> To: Adam
>>> Sent: Tue, June 22, 2010 9:32:25 PM
>>> Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Angrite with 1cm
>> Translucent
>>> crystals... a WOW moment!
>>>
>>> I agree that it is a totally awesome meteorite and a
>> rare
>>> one too. Congratulations!
>>>
>>> For future reference, it would be nice to wait a few
>> extra
>>> days for a provisional number at the very least so
>> that
>>> there is no confusion when announcing such an
>> extraordinary
>>> find. I think collectors would be even more interested
>> in a
>>> specimen that carried its own nomenclature. An
>> Angrite,
>>> paired or not will stand on its own. Even though this
>>> meteorite is likely paired, it has its own special
>>> characteristics that may make it more desirable as
>>> illustrated in your images.
>>>
>>> Best Regards,
>>>
>>> Adam
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