[meteorite-list] A Meteorite fall site goes under the bulldozer-Hammer Stone! urgent

From: Phil Morgan <roxfromspace_at_meteoritecentral.com>
Date: Thu, 2 Jun 2011 09:00:47 -0600
Message-ID: <BANLkTikA4cf3uDORZDzun8JoBFDMu_7utA_at_mail.gmail.com>

Wow, I never knew one had to have certain political or religious
leaning to be interested in meteorites. Must ponder this....

Phil

On Thu, Jun 2, 2011 at 4:40 AM, Brian Cox <searchingforfun at sbcglobal.net> wrote:
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> Hello Marc, Dirk and all,
>
> I agree with you that it's very sad that there may be no more meteorites
> found in this area and the developers don't give a damn about it, nor anyone
> apparently buying a property there. Maybe if someone builds a swimming pool
> they will discover a long buried piece and realize it's not a common rock.
> Home prices range from a very small home at an average $300,000.00 USD which
> is very common for Orange County to $10 Million dollar homes and ranchettes.
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> It's not a community that cares about meteorites, being in southern Orange
> County, not far from the ocean and just north of San Diego County in
> Southern California. They are more focused on building homes than allowing
> anyone to search for meteorites, plus they won't take the insurance risk.
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> Look up real estate prices at www.realtor.com and look under Wikipedia for
> general information about the city.
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> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/San_Juan_Capistrano,_California
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> San Juan Capistrano is known for its cliff swallows. The protected birds are
> reputed to return from migration, traditionally originating in the town of
> Goya, Argentina, on St. Joseph's Day (March 19).
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> The town is in heavily conservative and republican Orange County. They
> really don't care at all about meteorites, it's sad to say, but just about
> making money. Remember it's called "Orange" county, because it was once full
> of orange groves, which have disappeared over the years to build homes.
>
> Politics:
> In the state legislature San Juan Capistrano is located in the 38th Senate
> District, represented by Republican Mark Wyland, and in the 73rd Assembly
> District, represented by Republican Diane Harkey. Federally, San Juan
> Capistrano is located in California's 44th and 48th congressional districts,
> which have Cook PVIs of R +6 and R +8 respectively[3] and is represented by
> Republicans Ken Calvert and John Campbell respectively. As of the 2010
> elections, the city council members are: Sam Allevato (Mayor), Laura Freese,
> Larry Kramer (Mayor Pro Tem), John Taylor, and Derek Reeve.
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> This city also has four private, Christian, college prep schools named
> Capistrano Valley Christian Schools (Pre-K through 12th grade), Saddleback
> Valley Christian School (Pre-K through 12th grade), St. Margaret's Episcopal
> School (also Pre-K through 12th grade), and J. Serra Catholic High School
> (9th through 12th grade).
> The city also has two private kindergarten through eighth grade schools
> named Mission Parish School and Rancho Capistrano Christian School. Mission
> Parish School is located on the historic Mission grounds, utilizes some of
> the historic buildings as classrooms, and is situated next to Mission
> Basilica San Juan Capistrano. The other is Rancho Capistrano Christian
> School, located off Highway 5 on the Crystal Cathedral's south campus. The
> campus at Rancho Capistrano is also host to meetings and conventions, as
> well as summer camps.
>
> Hope this gives those of you unfamiliar with Orange County some insight into
> why the city and the county aren't interested in meteorites, like we are.
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> Take care,
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> Brian
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> Message: 11
> Date: Wed, 1 Jun 2011 17:50:30 -0700 (PDT)
> From: drtanuki <drtanuki at yahoo.com>
> Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] A Meteorite fall site goes under the
> bulldozer - Hammer Stone! urgent
> To: Marc Fries <mfries8 at hotmail.com>,
> meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com, Michael L Blood <mlblood at cox.net>
> Message-ID: <49967.99935.qm at web161215.mail.bf1.yahoo.com>
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> Dear Marc,
> Thank you for your urgent plea. ?The list may be unaware that this is
> California`s ONLY known HAMMER Meteorite and thus more "important" for
> some....
> San Juan Capistrano
> Capt. Blood does your ship have a crew???
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> MetSocBul entry
> http://www.lpi.usra.edu/meteor/metbull.php?code=23128
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> San Juan Capistrano H6
> FALL OF THE SAN JUAN CAPISTRANO, CALIFORNIA, STONY METEORITE
> Name: SAN JUAN CAPISTRANO
> Place of fall: San Juan Capistrano, California, U.S.A.
> 33?29'05"N, 117?39'45"W.
> Date of fall: March 15, 1973, between midnight and 0400, Pacific Standard
> Time.
> Class and type: Stone. Olivine-bronzite chondrite (H6).
> Number of individual specimens: 2
> Total weight: 56g
> Circumstances of fall: The largest piece, 50.5 g, penetrated the aluminum
> sheeting roof of a carport in a mobile-home park and was picked up on the
> carport floor several hours later. The second smaller fragment, 5.5 g, was
> discovered about one month after the fall in the gutter of the carport roof.
> Source: R. C. Finkel, D. Lal and K. Marti. 1973. Cosmicray record in the San
> Juan Capistrano meteorite. Meteoritics 8, 365.
>
> Best Regards, ?Dirk Ross...Tokyo
>
>
> --- On Thu, 6/2/11, Marc Fries <mfries8 at hotmail.com> wrote:
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>> From: Marc Fries <mfries8 at hotmail.com>
>> Subject: [meteorite-list] CA Meteorite fall site goes under the bulldozer
>> To: meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com
>> Date: Thursday, June 2, 2011, 9:31 AM
>> Howdy all
>>
>> ? ? This isn't new news at this point, but the
>> site of the San Juan Capistrano meteorite fall is on its way
>> to becoming a "172 acre mixed use development".? I've
>> tried repeatedly to contact the developers and ask for
>> permission to search for meteorites on the ground they
>> clear, to no avail. I offered my time for free so they could
>> donate any meteorites I found to local schools and what-not,
>> but they're not buying. The last time I called the secretary
>> put me straight to voicemail. In case anyone else would like
>> to try their hand at this, here's the company doing the
>> bulldozing:
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>> http://advancedonline.com/ares/
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>> ? ? Look under "current projects" for "The
>> Meadows at San Juan Capistrano".? They will be (already
>> are?) clearing land adjacent to the trailer park where the
>> only pieces of SJC were recovered. Here's a Google Map
>> centered on the Meteoritical Society database coords for the
>> fall:
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>> http://tinyurl.com/3q5oaxa
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>> ? ? This development has met some resistance in
>> the local community and was covered extensively by the local
>> media.? I do wonder how it would go over if the media
>> were made aware that this development will probably bury
>> meteorites from one of only two California falls.
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Marc Fries
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