[meteorite-list] Moon Dust

From: Jeff Kuyken <info_at_meteoritecentral.com>
Date: Mon, 27 Jun 2011 20:22:50 +1000
Message-ID: <CFE94A179F9B4C1AB527B38231015C6B_at_JeffPC>

G'day John,

Very interesting article... thanks. It reminds me of a story I saw a while
back. One of the things that is under-development for the return to the moon
is a spray that can go onto just about anything. It's one of those
remarkable developments where nature was used as the inspiration. They
investigated the way water rolls off Lotus leaves and applied that idea to
the spray. So much like water on a lotus leaf, lunar dust will fall off
material coated with the spray. Cool stuff.

Cheers,

Jeff

----- Original Message -----
From: "John.L.Cabassi" <John at Cabassi.net>
To: "'Martin Altmann'" <altmann at meteorite-martin.de>;
<meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com>
Sent: Monday, June 27, 2011 6:13 AM
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Moon Dust



This dust seems like a problem
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/15607792/

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From: meteorite-list-bounces at meteoritecentral.com
[mailto:meteorite-list-bounces at meteoritecentral.com] On Behalf Of Martin
Altmann
Sent: Saturday, June 25, 2011 5:31 PM
To: meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Moon Dust


Well, look what Slezak has here on his fingers! (photo courtesy: NASA).
That's what the big gooseberry season story is about.

http://images.jsc.nasa.gov/luceneweb/fullimage.jsp?photoId=S69-40054

The Slezak&tape story is well documented, publically known for decades
now. No idea, how one can speak then from "smuggling" or even "black
market".

>Agreements such as the one shown here have long been used

Well, in this case it's the simple question "how long" they have been
used.

Florian, who acquired the scotch tape, told, that when Slezak put the
strip of tape on the poster to remember in 1969/1970 no regulations
concerning the Apollo materials existed, the first ones came into effect
in August 1972.

If it's so - then: Newspaper had its story, attorney his publicity on
TV... and because Ex post facto, the widow should get her dust grains
back.

If it's not so, FBI has to throw Slezak and btw. Alan Bean, who used
lunar dust from his mission patches in his paintings into jail. Anyway,
these contaminated few single particles of dust, are compared to the
Apollo rocks research has at hand of no scientific interest.

Hence I think, that tax-money spent for that nuisance should have been
better spent for the acquisition of more samples of lunar meteorites for
NASA diversifying their lunar materials reservoir.


Ah here are some of Bean's paintings.
http://www.alanbean.com/available_originals.cfm

Hmm, they are quite bit more expensive than the tape-snippet...therefore
don't show them to the U.S. attorney's office in St.Louis!


When the Moon hits your eye
like a big pizza pie,

that's ammmooorrrreeee.
Martin


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Von: meteorite-list-bounces at meteoritecentral.com
[mailto:meteorite-list-bounces at meteoritecentral.com] Im Auftrag von Jeff
Grossman
Gesendet: Sonntag, 26. Juni 2011 01:37
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Betreff: Re: [meteorite-list] Moon Dust

[This email was written by me as a private citizen, and does not reflect

any kind of official position by NASA]

If you want to see the loan agreements that are used today, please read:

http://curator.jsc.nasa.gov/lunar/sampreq/LunarAllocHandbook.pdf

Agreements such as the one shown here have long been used at NASA, and
I'm pretty sure most "official" samples in the past have had paperwork
such as this accompanying them. I don't know what kind of variability
of terms there have been in these agreements, but I'm confident that,
whatever they say, they are legally binding on the recipients who sign
them.

I don't understand why people would be surprised that material of any
value removed from a federal facility without permission might be
subject to scrutiny. This sounds like theft to me, and doesn't seem to
require any special law pertaining to the specific material. So, I
don't understand the comment about "self-proclaimed laws." Even if
there is no cover-up of the removal or subsequent sale, that does not
necessarily make it legal. I think the legal issue might come down to
whether or not the remover had permission, either expressed or implied.

Jeff



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