[meteorite-list] BLM

From: Michael Mulgrew <mikestang_at_meteoritecentral.com>
Date: Fri, 21 Sep 2012 10:39:09 -0700
Message-ID: <CAMseTy2+ic1P=pLyMaCYauyM7fKzvcgGXTzJqwGSO4wtwap30Q_at_mail.gmail.com>

As I understand it, this new memo from the BLM is not a law. Last I
checked the BLM does not have the power to write laws.

Michael in so. Cal.

On Fri, Sep 21, 2012 at 6:42 AM, Doug Achim <dougachim at yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> I live in Southern New Mexico. I ran about 100 sections, part of a larger
> ranch for a little over 5 years( 1999 to 2004) The part I ran was almost all
> classified as Wilderness Study Area (WSA). Look up the rules for WSA. The
> only time there was anyone in the area that was not there to visit me was
> hunting season. The hunters drove all over off road , left their camps a
> mess when they left, generally trashed the place. I begged the BLM to come
> bust somebody so I could spread the word and maybe get everyone to follow
> the rules. Never once did a BLM person show up during the 5 years, except
> some old volutiers and all they did was drive around and sometimes pick up
> some trash. In 2004 there was one BLM Agent ( The ones who carry guns) to
> cover all of southern New Mexico. Border Patrol was a different matter.
> There were more Border Patrol on the ranch daily than illegals passed
> through yearly. They mostly were hunting arrowheads, shooting rabbits, or
> picnicking. I collect arrowheads. I have all the laws concerning
> artifacts in the binder made up for my files. ARPA laws state in is not
> againt the law to pick up arrowheads on the surface. ( ARPA was passed in
> 1979, Jimmy Crater was the president and he was an arrowhead collector). He
> refused to sign ARPA stating that he did not some Boy Scout arrested for
> picking an arrowhead up. So it was changed to exclude arrowhead hunting,
> only arrowheads nothing else, and that is stated a couple places in the law.
> I had a friend in another BLM area got harassed by a BLM person, so I decide
> to check in person. There was not one person in the Las Cruces BLM office
> who could tell me anything except that you could not do it. It took me weeks
> to find the Agent, and he told me a lot of different things. The one that
> like was it was not against the law to pick up an arrowhead if you were
> working, hiking or whatever else on BLM land and found one. Where you were
> breaking the law was if you went to the BLM land with the intent of
> looking for arrowheads. I had the law with me so I pulled out a copy of ARPA
> and ask him to show me where that was stated as I had read it numerous times
> and never seen any thing written like that. He did not read anything just
> stated that I was not a lawyer and probably to stupid to understand legal
> writing. I studied Animal Science, Business, and Civil Engineering, so I am
> maybe not as smart as a Federal employee, but I know how to read. Someone
> needs to have a lawyer friend really read the new meteorite law, including
> all the fine print, because the BLM people read the title and go from there,
> or they are trying to run you off an area so they can go back and hunt
> themselves. Another story about arrowheads and ARPA. I found a copy of the
> Forest Service laws on artifacts. It stated that it was against the the to
> pick up chipped stone projectiles ( arrowheads ). I contacted the
> Forest Service and questioned it. They told me that ARPA was only a
> guideline for federal agencies to use to make their own regulations. I said
> so the Congress, Senate, and the President had studied, debated, and finally
> passed the law so some GS2 employee of the Forest Service could change to to
> what ever he wanted to. I have not seen the new laws but will track one down
> soon and have a judge friend of mine write an opionon and sent it to the
> list. Saludos Doug
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