[meteorite-list] Mifflin meteorite for sale on EBay

From: Michael Farmer <mike_at_meteoritecentral.com>
Date: Thu, 13 Jun 2013 20:51:03 -0700
Message-ID: <D5534BB5-E104-468E-B6E6-BF8A31138B22_at_meteoriteguy.com>

The fact that the label is for Springwater seems to be a problem to me.
I also think it is more likely Ash Creek.
Who is Lonestar meteorites? Wasn't that a known scammer?
Michael Farmer

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On Jun 13, 2013, at 8:46 PM, Jason Utas <meteoritekid at gmail.com> wrote:

> Hello Bill, Brandon, Mendy, all,
> Honestly, this slice doesn't look bad. If you compare the breccias:
>
> (real, from a stone found by Sonny Clary)
> http://www.ebay.com/itm/MUSEUM-QUALITY-CRUSTED-FULL-SLICE-MAGNIFICENT-MIFFLIN-METEORITE-L5-12-57-GMS-/200687083720?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item2eb9e1e0c8
>
> (?)
> http://www.ebay.com/itm/MIFFLIN-L5-METEORITE-8-26g-BEAUTIFUL-CRUSTED-SLICE-WITNESSED-FALL-4-14-2010-/271220743348?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item3f26041cb4&nma=true&si=jHrsL50utK2qqpfbNFqr9%252BcmQSM%253D&orig_cvip=true&rt=nc&_trksid=p2047675.l2557
>
> It looks good. The textures are close, if not identical. But, we
> know the same seller sliced and sold an unclassified NWA L/LL as
> Amgala (proven via photographic comparison of sister slices by another
> list-member). And, we know the variety of NWAs available. It would
> be tough to find a match this good. But not impossible.
>
> Mendy suggested Ash Creek -- they're close, but the brecciated portion
> of Ash Creek is almost always a lighter grey color and the
> unbrecciated lasts look a little more homogenous (makes sense, since
> Ash Creek is an L6 and Mifflin's an L5). Definitely discernible in a
> line-up of photos.
>
> Meh. If I really wanted a slice of Mifflin, I'd probably buy this
> slice. But I'd scrutinize the hell of out of it, ask him for his
> source, and verify provenance as far as I could with photos, weights,
> invoices, etc. Not a purchase I'd personally consider. But it is
> cheap - if it's real.
>
> Jason
>
>
>
> www.fallsandfinds.com
>
>
> On Thu, Jun 13, 2013 at 8:30 PM, Mendy Ouzillou <ouzillou at yahoo.com> wrote:
>> Bill,
>>
>> To Jason's point, is this past auction Ash Creek, Mifflin or something else: http://bit.ly/13FM9Aw?
>>
>> Compare this Ash Creek to the present Mifflin being discussed.
>>
>>
>> Mendy Ouzillou
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: bill kies <parkforestmet at hotmail.com>
>>> To: Jason Utas <meteoritekid at gmail.com>
>>> Cc: "meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com" <meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com>
>>> Sent: Thursday, June 13, 2013 8:23 PM
>>> Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Mifflin meteorite for sale on EBay
>>>
>>> Let's forget the seller for the moment. Why is this not Mifflin and what
>>> other material do you think it could be?
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>> Bill
>>>
>>> --------------------------------------
>>>> Date: Thu, 13 Jun 2013 20:15:43 -0700
>>>> Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Mifflin meteorite for sale on EBay
>>>> From: meteoritekid at gmail.com
>>>> To: parkforestmet at hotmail.com
>>>> CC: b1dunovant at aol.com; meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com
>>>>
>>>> Hello Bill, Brandon, All,
>>>> Given the seller, I'm surprised anyone would consider it without a
>>>> very good photographic record of provenance. Could be Mifflin: looks
>>>> better than most of the H-chondrite misrepresented material that was
>>>> going around. But the same seller recently sold off-looking Nuevo
>>>> Mercurio and Chelyabinsk, and has a documented history of mixing
>>>> things up.
>>>> Wouldn't touch it, myself.
>>>> Regards,
>>>> Jason
>>>>
>>>> www.fallsandfinds.com
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Thu, Jun 13, 2013 at 7:41 PM, bill kies
>>> <parkforestmet at hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>>> That slice seemed reasonable. I'm surprised it didn't sell.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> ----------------------------------------
>>>>>> From: b1dunovant at aol.com
>>>>>> Date: Thu, 13 Jun 2013 09:52:09 -0500
>>>>>> To: meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com
>>>>>> Subject: [meteorite-list] Mifflin meteorite for sale on EBay
>>>>>>
>>>>>> All,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I wondered if anybody might offer some input or opinions on a 8.26g
>>> slice of "Mifflin" currently for sale on eBay.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> http://tiny.cc/tugmyw
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Great price if as stated.. but is it or not?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>> Brandon D.
>>>>>> IMCA# 9312
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