[meteorite-list] Possible Ancient Meteorite

From: Jason Utas <meteoritekid_at_meteoritecentral.com>
Date: Fri, 13 Sep 2013 00:24:32 -0700
Message-ID: <CABEOBj+rmLWgdXAue1KJ_iYdCTTm9r6Vx_+UdDEb2PC0RzHe_g_at_mail.gmail.com>

Hello Roman, All,
I'm no expert, but...

The vertical view of the vessel is triangular because the pottery
fragments of the lower portion came from a much larger vessel --
probably a bowl or two-handled vessel of some sort, given its apparent
diameter and the thickness of some of the fragments. The glazed and
delicately-formed lip and neck appear to be from a completely
different vase -- a nice one, at that. The handle is a bit odd, not
sure about it.

The first question that came to mind after seeing the images is "Why
would anyone glue pieces of a large pot together in the form of a much
smaller one?"

Upon closer inspection, I began to wonder why an archaeologist would
glue mismatched pieces of glass or glazed pottery, painted and scored
terracotta, and other ceramics of greatly differing thicknesses
together into a triangular shape that (crudely) mimics an amphora's
shape...albeit with one handle.

I'm surprised that anyone carbon-dated the site, given that the
pottery and details of other artifacts are often deemed suitable for
dating purposes.

I had too many questions after reading the provided description.
Sure, pass the fellow along to an expert...

Jason

On Thu, Sep 12, 2013 at 8:15 PM, Anne Black <impactika at aol.com> wrote:
> Hello Roman,
>
> It is really quite simple.
> Since he is in Phoenix AZ, he should go straight to Arizona State University
> (ASU) they have an archaeology department and some of the top meteorite
> experts.
> Perfect place to get answers to all his questions.
>
>
> Anne M. Black
> www.IMPACTIKA.com
> IMPACTIKA at aol.com
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Roman Jirasek <rj at meteoritelabels.com>
> To: meteorite-list <meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com>
> Sent: Thu, Sep 12, 2013 8:00 pm
> Subject: [meteorite-list] Possible Ancient Meteorite
>
>
> I had an archaeologist email me today asking about custom labels, and also
> if I could help with identifying a possible ancient meteorite he found this
> year.
>
> I received permission to send this question to my fellow colleagues which
> may
> have more insight into this topic. Read below, or click on link to see his
> photos...
> http://www.meteoritelabels.com/Ancient.htm
>
> Cheers,
> Roman Jirasek
> www.meteoritelabels.com
>
> Copied email follows....
>
> I am an Archaeologist and recovered a meteorite in 2013, on private
> property in Sparta Greece. This meteorite was found inside an ancient vase,
> and was buried with human remains. We dated this site to approximately, 220
> BCE to 130 BCE, but have not yet carbon dated the item.
>
> I do not know of any meteorite falling on or near Sparta Greece. Since the
> meteorite was found inside an honorary vase, we suspect it was held in high
> regards, and more than likely to remember a battle.
>
> The only battle recorded that had a meteorite that fell during the battle;
> was with ancient Turkey and the Spartans.
>
> It actually stopped the battle for two days, thinking it was a sign from the
> gods. Many of the Spartans recovered portions of the meteorite is a sign of
> victory from the God of Mars.
>
> I have enclosed a picture of the meteorite. Can you tell me? Of any
> meteorites that fell prior to 220 BCE, since we know that was the earliest
> date, since the meteorites was buried with the hoplite soldier. We assume
> the meteorite obviously fell before that date.
>
> This would help us, with dating the find.
>
> Additionally what would the selling price be if it were to be sold. The
> meteorite?
>
> Thank you
>
> Douglas Roth.
> Phoenix, Arizona.
> Sparta archaeology.
>
> Yes, it is fine to forward the info and pics.
>
> I don't have any dir links, but can be found, on face book for Douglas
> Rothman Scottsdale, or ancient history on face book for archeology travel
> and tours.
>
> Douglas Rothman.
>
>
>
>
>
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