[meteorite-list] Confusion between two Ontario, Canada meteors in 2014 (recent falls not classified)

From: Galactic Stone & Ironworks <meteoritemike_at_meteoritecentral.com>
Date: Wed, 4 Jun 2014 22:09:50 -0400
Message-ID: <CAKBPJW-55i0oNFBsKR==0iU8D6rDXUxyuqSuxoL5GMfRkGYnVw_at_mail.gmail.com>

Hi Rob, Mike, and List,

The tally of recent falls that I maintain is far from authoritative
and is for my own amusement and possibly for whatever use others see
in it. I used to follow Mike Jensen's page of recent meteorite falls,
but he quit updating it sometime in 2008 or 2009. His was more
informative and included photos with links to news stories about each
fall. I started keeping a tally as a way to keep track of recent
witnessed falls I hoped to add to my collection.

This mailing list is one of many sources that I use to populate the
tally. Sometimes, promising bolides make the list and are removed
later if no recoveries are made. I just removed the so-called "St.
Thomas" event because it seems unlikely that there will be any finds.

Others, like the so-called "Planeta Rica" fall (Jan 15, 2013) seem
more likely to have produced meteorites which were recovered, but due
to the dangerous nature of the local area, it seems unlikely that
material will surface on the market. I leave it on the list because
there are probably meteorites out there from that event.

Here are the falls since 2005 which produced meteorites which were
recovered (according to credible reports), but were never officially
classified or approved :

Jul 17, 2005 - "Montney" (unofficial) (H6 chondrite?) : Canada (Hammer)
Sep 07, 2007 - "Guadalajara" (unofficial) (L or LL3 chondrite?) :
Mexico (Hammer)
Apr 12, 2008 - "Zunhua" (unofficial) (L4 chondrite?) : China (Hammer)
Mar 01, 2009 - "Cartersville" (unofficial) (ordinary chondrite?) :
Georgia USA (Hammer)
May 01, 2010 - "Breja/Taouz" (unofficial) (LL6 chondrite?) : Algeria
Oct 30, 2012 - "Addison" (unofficial) (ordinary chondrite?) : Alabama USA
Oct 12, 2012 - "Beni Yacoub" (unofficial) (ordinary chondrite?) : Morocco
Jun 03, 2012 - "Comayagua" (unofficial) (ordinary chondrite?) :
Honduras (Hammer)
Jul 08, 2012 - "Jalangi" (unofficial) (ordinary chondrite?) : India
Mar 01, 2012 - "Oslo" (unofficial) (ordinary chondrite?) : Norway (Hammer)
May 09, 2013 - "Oshika" (unofficial) (ordinary chondrite?) : Namibia
Jun 15, 2013 - "Yuncheng-Shanxi" (unofficial) (ordinary chondrite?) : China
Sep 23, 2013 - "Vicencia" (unofficial) (ordinary chondrite?) : Brazil
May 09, 2013 - "Oshika" (unofficial) (ordinary chondrite?) : Namibia
Jun 15, 2013 - "Yuncheng-Shanxi" (unofficial) (ordinary chondrite?) : China
Sep 23, 2013 - "Vicencia" (unofficial) (ordinary chondrite?) : Brazil
Jan 15, 2013 - "Planeta Rica" (unofficial) (ordinary chondrite?) : Colombia
Feb 17, 2014 - "Santa Fe" (unofficial) (unknown type) : Argentina
Feb 28, 2014 - "Rift Valley" (unofficial) (ordinary chondrite?) : Kenya (Hammer)
Mar 09, 2014 - "Jinju" (unofficial) (ordinary chondrite?) : South Korea

Best regards,

MikeG

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On 6/4/14, Matson, Rob D. <ROBERT.D.MATSON at leidos.com> wrote:
> Hi Mike,
>
> Just to confuse things further, I was mixing up the 18 March St. Thomas
> meteor with the more recent (4 May) Codrington, Ontario meteor. The
> *Codrington* one was the one east of Toronto that might be on radar.
> My thanks to Rob Catlin for correcting me and pointing out that St.
> Thomas is obviously west of Toronto.
>
> The St. Thomas fall was on at least 9 different cameras and a pretty
> precise 3D trajectory was computed. I don't think as many cameras
> recorded the Codrington one. But the Codrington one has a promising
> radar hit (Buffalo radar) less than a minute after the event at around
> 13 km altitude, very close to the intersection of all the witness
> reports.
>
> --Rob
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Meteorite-list [mailto:meteorite-list-bounces at meteoritecentral.com] On
> Behalf Of Galactic Stone & Ironworks via Meteorite-list
> Sent: Wednesday, June 04, 2014 8:17 AM
> To: Rob Matson
> Cc: meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com; Michael Farmer
> Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] 2014 St. Thomas meteor
>
> Hi Rob and Mike,
>
> No, I thought I had heard something about a find a while back, but now that
> I check my emails and records, I was mistaken.  I removed the St.
> Thomas bolide from the list of meteorite falls.  :)
>
> Best regards and Happy Huntings,
>
> MikeG
>
>
> On 6/4/14, Rob Matson <mojave_meteorites at cox.net> wrote:
>> Hi Mike/Mike/All,
>>
>> I wondered if I had missed something. As far as I knew, nothing had
>> been found
>> (yet)
>> for the St. Thomas fall east of Toronto. The fall location is pretty
>> well constrained by video (and possibly radar as well), so if anything
>> survived to the ground I expect something will eventually be found.
>> --Rob
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Meteorite-list
>> [mailto:meteorite-list-bounces at meteoritecentral.com]
>> On
>> Behalf Of Michael Farmer via Meteorite-list
>> Sent: Tuesday, June 03, 2014 6:07 PM
>> To: Galactic Stone & Ironworks
>> Cc: Meteorite List
>> Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Happy Birthday to Comayagua (Recent
>> Falls)
>>
>> Why do you list the Canada thing, nothing was found that O ever heard
>> about.
>> Michael Farmer
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>>> On Jun 3, 2014, at 5:51 PM, "Galactic Stone & Ironworks"
>> <meteoritemike at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> That's a shame.  It's one of those meteorites that is destined just
>>> be an obscure footnote.  I wonder if any of it will ever surface, and
>>> if so, the chain of provenance will be murky.
>>>
>>> For those that are interested, here are the known and/or official
>>> falls since 2012 :
>>>
>>> 2014 -
>>>
>>> Feb 17, 2014 - "Santa Fe" (unofficial) (unknown type) : Argentina Feb
>>> 28, 2014 - "Rift Valley" (unofficial) (ordinary chondrite?) : Kenya
>> (Hammer)
>>> Mar 09, 2014 - "Jinju" (unofficial) (ordinary chondrite?) : South
>>> Korea Mar 18, 2014 - "St. Thomas" (unofficial) : (unknown type) :
>>> Canada
>>>
>>> 2013 -
>>>
>>> Jan 15, 2013 - "Planeta Rica" (unofficial) (ordinary chondrite?) :
>>> Colombia
>>> Feb 15, 2013 - Chelyabinsk - (LL5 chondrite) : Russia (Hammer) Apr
>>> 19, 2013 - "Wolcott" (unofficial) (ordinary chondrite?) :
>>> Connecticut USA (Hammer)
>>> Apr 23, 2013 - Braunschweig (L6 chondrite) : Germany (Hammer) May 09,
>>> 2013 - "Oshika" (unofficial) (ordinary chondrite?) : Namibia Jun 15,
>>> 2013 - "Yuncheng-Shanxi" (unofficial) (ordinary chondrite?) :
>>> China
>>> Sep 23, 2013 - "Vicencia" (unofficial) (ordinary chondrite?) : Brazil
>>>
>>> 2012 -
>>>
>>> Feb 11, 2012 - Xining (L5 chondrite) : China Mar 01, 2012 - "Oslo"
>>> (unofficial) (ordinary chondrite?) : Norway
>>> (Hammer)
>>> Apr 22, 2012 - Sutter's Mill (CM - Regolith Breccia) : California USA
>>> (Hammer)
>>> May 04, 2012 - Ladkee (H6 chondrite) : Pakistan May 22, 2012 - Katol
>>> (L6 chondrite) : India (Hammer) Jun 03, 2012 - "Comayagua"
>>> (unofficial) (ordinary chondrite?) :
>>> Honduras (Hammer)
>>> Jul 08, 2012 - "Jalangi" (unofficial) (ordinary chondrite?) : India
>>> Aug 22, 2012 - Battle Mountain (L6 chondrite) : Nevada USA Oct 12,
>>> 2012 - "Beni Yacoub" (unofficial) (ordinary chondrite?) : Morocco Oct
>>> 17, 2012 - Novato (L6 chondrite) : California USA (Hammer) Oct 30,
>>> 2012 - "Addison" (unofficial) (ordinary chondrite?) : Alabama USA Dec
>>> 16, 2012 - Mreira (L6 chondrite) : Mauritania (fall classified as a
>>> find)
>>>
>>> All falls since 2000 : http://www.galactic-stone.com/pages/falls
>>>
>>> Best regards and Happy Huntings,
>>>
>>> MikeG
>>>
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>>>> On 6/3/14, Michael Farmer <mike at meteoriteguy.com> wrote:
>>>> Nothing new other than the stone has vanished. Supposedly sold for
>>>> $80,000
>>>> to the local university. Anyone who has been to Honduras would know
>>>> that could never happen.
>>>> Sad loss for a stone which penetrated a roof and bed while a man was
>>>> laying in it watching TV! He came a few mm from being one of the
>>>> most famous people in the world as a meteorite casualty.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Michael Farmer
>>>>
>>>> Sent from my iPad
>>>>
>>>>> On Jun 3, 2014, at 2:46 PM, Galactic Stone & Ironworks via
>>>>> Meteorite-list <meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Hi Listees,
>>>>>
>>>>> Today is the 2nd anniversary of the Comayagua meteorite fall in
>>>>> Honduras - June 03, 2012.
>>>>>
>>>>> Any news about that fall or recoveries to mention?
>>>>>
>>>>> Best regards,
>>>>>
>>>>> MikeG
>>>>>
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