[meteorite-list] NWA 5000 Limited Edition - World's Largest Lunar [meteorite] Replica

From: Raremeteorites <raremeteorites_at_meteoritecentral.com>
Date: Thu, 16 Jun 2016 03:48:30 -0700
Message-ID: <32E2F199E31347349A2433213CAB9DF2_at_HPDESKTOP>

You are the main reason I am moving away from the sales of meteorites.
Betrayal, greed, self-delusions of grander and shameless shelf-promotion all
come to mind. Like any object of great value, they tend to expose the truth
and character of individuals. Sometimes the ugly side is exposed.

I have always honored all contracts and kept my word.

Adam Hupe
The Founder of The Hupe Collection


----- Original Message -----
From: "Greg Hupe" <gmhupe at centurylink.net>
To: "Raremeteorites" <raremeteorites at centurylink.net>
Cc: "meteorite list" <meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com>
Sent: Thursday, June 16, 2016 3:25 AM
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] NWA 5000 Limited Edition - World's Largest
Lunar [meteorite] Replica


The joke is how desperate Adam has become with his ever-changing signature,
this time, 'The Original Hupe Collection'. How pathetic! You proclaimed your
desertion of meteoritics several years ago. I suggest you listen you
yourselves and go away!!

And absolutely "Yes", the truth is starting to come out thanks to your
replies to my post about my replicas and me in general. I sold EVERY
complete slice of NWA 5000 ever placed into any collection. You have only
sold small and smaller pieces over the years.

In the meantime, you have a nice day!

Best regards,
Greg Hupe

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jun 16, 2016, at 12:20 PM, Raremeteorites via Meteorite-list
> <meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com> wrote:
>
> The entire truth about this matter will come out and not the self-serving
> fiction that was posted below.
>
> Adam Hupe
> The Original Hupe Collection
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Greg Hupe" <gmhupe at centurylink.net>
> To: "Raremeteorites" <raremeteorites at centurylink.net>
> Cc: "meteorite list" <meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com>
> Sent: Thursday, June 16, 2016 2:02 AM
> Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] NWA 5000 Limited Edition - World's Largest
> Lunar [meteorite] Replica
>
>
> Yes, Please nobody confuse me with my brother, Adam. Do not ever think I
> am like that!
>
> I bailed him out on NWA 5000 in June 2013. I have represented Adam and his
> long time and current NWA 5000 partner, Jeff Kroschell, well before I
> rescued the majority of the mass from being returned to the Moroccan
> owners to be utterly destroyed and spread around after the hammer, not
> unlike Adam is doing now with his eBay sales. A 2-year and growing
> disgrace!
>
> Even before I rescued my brother and the meteorite itself, I sold the (at
> the time) the only complete slice to the benefit of Adam AND his partner,
> Jeff Kroschell. During mine and Adam's NWA 5000 'partnership' (I say that
> loosely) I sold other complete slices which Adam and presumably Jeff
> Kroschell benefitted equally to me. Adam dropped the ball after about 2010
> and he let NWA 5000 become stagnant. Me, and my company, Nature's Vault,
> Inc., represented and professionally sold NWA 5000 to some of the 'world's
> most influential' individuals with my hard work and expense. In addition
> to my purchasing 50% of the remaining mass in June 2013 directly from the
> rightfully impatient Moroccans owners for non-payment, I was also given
> access to the intellectual rights to the web site and the mold which Jeff
> Kroschell and Adam made together! To this day my ungrateful and
> threatening brother benefits from my directing people to HIM by my worldly
> efforts with NWA 5000. I owe him nothing!!
>
> I am very proud of all of my efforts in my NWA 5000 representation and
> ethical sales! I will not be bullied by opportunists and ungrateful users!
>
> For the record, in ONLY the last week was I informed about NWA 10495, and
> have it confirmed by Tony Irving (same one who consulted on my Yale
> display), and without physical proof of Kalahari, it is still a myth until
> a particular dealer thinks he can draw it out of the shadows and sell it
> to the Maine Mineral Museum (Barbara in this thread).
>
> I have not 'misrepresented' NWA 5000 in any way as the very
> unprofessional, and nearly slanderous acquisitions manager has accused me
> of in this thread. I will not be bullied by her or her dealer either!
>
> I've worked too hard for the benefit of everyone, especially a very
> ungrateful ex-business partner, my estranged brother.
>
> I suggest you all pay attention to your own business. Life is too short to
> continue messing with me! I will not tolerate being slandered, used or
> accused. Get over yourselves!!
>
> Best regards,
> Greg Hupe
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>> On Jun 16, 2016, at 5:48 AM, Raremeteorites via Meteorite-list
>> <meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com> wrote:
>>
>> I do not want to be confused with Greg on the latest round of claims or
>> business dealings. I operate independently.
>>
>> I only claimed NWA 5000 was the largest Highlands lunar meteorite ever
>> found and the largest to ever be put on public display. This has always
>> been clearly stated on my copyrighted website which was created long
>> before Greg became involved and needs to be updated..
>>
>> I give Kalahari 009 the benefit of the doubt on my website, although it
>> has never been weight certified or shown in public. The weight remains
>> unofficial and looks to be rounded off or guesstimated to me. Some doubt
>> its existence or that it is even lunar. I have never seen it, know very
>> little about it, don't like how it was managed and have very little
>> interest in it.
>>
>> Link to my NWA 5000 Website:
>> http://themeteoritesite.com/
>>
>>
>> For the record, I created the mold and casting system for the NWA 5000
>> main mass and maintain all the rights; artistic, intellectual,
>> copyrighted and otherwise. I authorized one additional casting to be
>> used for promotional purposes only and not to be resold. I spent over
>> 200 hours designing and creating a near perfect mold of the complete NWA
>> 5000 main mass and a procedure for producing castings without bubbles or
>> a noticeable seam.
>>
>> I have a few questions in regards to NWA 10495:.
>>
>> I do not recall seeing images of NWA 10495 which is claimed to weigh
>> 12.120 kg. Has it been weight certified in front of witnesses and are
>> there any images? Is it a reassembled puzzle, many stones or as single
>> mass? If it does turn out to be a single largest certified lunar mass, I
>> will be the first to offer congratulations.
>>
>> In any case, I want everybody to know that I have never misrepresented
>> NWA 5000 and have nothing to do with current claims or events.
>>
>> My claim is that NWA 5000 is simply the best and most desirable lunar
>> meteorite found to date which is backed up with facts on my website.
>>
>> Adam Hupe
>>
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Barbra Barrett via Meteorite-list"
>> <meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com>
>> To: "Greg Hupe" <gmhupe at centurylink.net>
>> Cc: <meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com>
>> Sent: Wednesday, June 15, 2016 7:17 PM
>> Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] NWA 5000 Limited Edition - World's Largest
>> Lunar [meteorite] Replica
>>
>>
>>>
>>>
>>> ?First congratulations on what has been sold to you and your museum, I
>>> am very well aware of what you have been sold and the new Maine Mineral
>>> Museum."
>>>
>>> =========================================================
>>>
>>> Greg,
>>>
>>> I had given you the benefit of doubt. Your awareness of our acquisitions
>>> indicates your knowledge of NWA 10495, making your misrepresentations to
>>> the list and others all the more troubling.
>>>
>>> Sincerely,
>>>
>>> Barbra
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>> On Jun 15, 2016, at 6:10 PM, Greg Hupe <gmhupe at centurylink.net> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Welcome to the Meteorite List Barbara!
>>>>
>>>> First congratulations on what has been sold to you and your museum, I
>>>> am very well aware of what you have been sold and the new Maine Mineral
>>>> Museum. I am glad you came out in public asking everyone, including all
>>>> of the Moroccan dealers, to contact you directly to save you money on
>>>> Moroccan purchases! Helps everyone and the Moroccans make more
>>>> profits!!
>>>>
>>>> Each 'NWA 5000' I offer was individually painted by hand, by an artist,
>>>> therefore each one is unique and a 'One-of-a-Kind' work of art. Plus I
>>>> did much personal hand work on them! Thank you for your interest!
>>>>
>>>> I look forward to visiting your museums treasures when it opens in the
>>>> fall!! :)
>>>>
>>>> Best regards,
>>>> Greg Hupe
>>>>
>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>
>>>>> On Jun 15, 2016, at 5:44 PM, Barbra Barrett
>>>>> <bbarrett at mainemineralmuseum.org> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Greetings to All,
>>>>>
>>>>> While I have enjoyed reading the posts and have yet to post anything
>>>>> myself, I feel compelled to make my first comment.
>>>>>
>>>>> NWA 5000 is indeed an exquisite lunar meteorite. However, there are
>>>>> bigger lunars. Kalahari 009 and NWA 10495, both exceed NWA 5000?s
>>>>> original mass. I?m writing now because I have been honored to curate
>>>>> the main mass of NWA 10495, which weighs 12.120 kg. Accuracy is
>>>>> important and it is impaired by exaggeration. While bigger doesn?t
>>>>> always mean better, when extolling the virtues of the largest lunar
>>>>> meteorite...size matters! Records get broken and we have new
>>>>> achievements to celebrate, but it is not right to celebrate NWA 5000
>>>>> as being the largest lunar meteorite found?(and respectfully, nor can
>>>>> there be at least three one-of-a-kind works of art).
>>>>>
>>>>> Barbra Barrett
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> On Jun 14, 2016, at 10:30 PM, Greg Hupe via Meteorite-list
>>>>>> <meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Dear List,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I would like to announce the availability of a Limited Edition of the
>>>>>> 'World's Largest Lunar [meteorite] Replica'. When I say "Limited
>>>>>> Edition", I mean extremely limited! I will be bringing and showing 1
>>>>>> of 3 (available) Full-size Painted replicas to the Ensisheim Show
>>>>>> this week. Since each replica was hand painted by a professional
>>>>>> artist right here in Florida they are all One-of-a-Kind works of art!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Please see here a sneak peek:
>>>>>> http://www.naturesvault.net/Images/NWA5000/NWA5000_Replica_Limited-Edition1.jpg
>>>>>>
>>>>>> See you at the show!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Best Regards,
>>>>>> Greg
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ====================
>>>>>> Greg Hupe
>>>>>> The Hupe Collection
>>>>>> gmhupe at centurylink.net
>>>>>> www.NaturesVault.net (Online Catalog & Reference Site)
>>>>>> www.LunarRock.com (Online Planetary Meteorite Site)
>>>>>> NaturesVault (Facebook, Pinterest & eBay)
>>>>>> http://www.facebook.com/NaturesVault
>>>>>> http://pinterest.com/NaturesVault
>>>>>> IMCA 3163
>>>>>> ====================
>>>>>> Click here for my current eBay auctions:
>>>>>> http://search.ebay.com/_W0QQsassZnaturesvault
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
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