[meteorite-list] Meteoritical Bulletin Main Mass photos

From: Marcin Cimala - POLANDMET <marcin_at_meteoritecentral.com>
Date: Mon, 15 Jun 2020 17:26:28 +0200
Message-ID: <DAB21C4D84C84B67AD17CA1F6CDCF795_at_meteorytf1cafb>

> What matters most of all is everyone being in *one* place. The problem
with Facebook is there are now a million and one different groups, this has
split the meteorite community into different places to the point that either
you need to monitor 6 different media feeds 24/7 or you are out of the loop.

There are few groups worth to look
Meteorites (3800 ppl)
Meteorite Hunters, Collectors, and Enthusiasts (6500) by Pat Brown and Jason
Utas
Meteorites, Tektites, Impactites & Ephemera (1700) hold by Mendy !
Meteorite Club (4800) by Alex Folda, John Higgins , Takis Theodossiou
Polandmet Meteorites (1200) my own, worth to look becouse Im very
"multimedia" guy
In fact I dont know why there are so big differences in members.

thats enough to be on-line with latest news
But most peoples are on the same groups posting same things on them all so
You cant miss anything. And You can scroll down the wall, so You can see
what was before. 30min a day and You are informed well.

So this is a tool and this depends on use how we use it, not matter who made
it. Do You think Guns kill or peoples kill using guns. So this is the same
useless discusion about Zuckenberg. Email is keeped by Google or Yahoo or
whatever. Anyone think here that Google is blessed by God world friendly
organization of nice next door guys? They are the same "nazi" like
Zuckenberg, Microsoft, or Apple or that evil Amazon. Hey americans, You buy
on amazon, You own iphone ? But You hate Facebook :D Interesting. Really.


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> The more it fragments the less knowledge and 'community' there will be.
> The advantage of the metlist is there is pretty much only one metlist,
> yes, it's an old school way of doing things, and it rests on people making
> the effort to post and contribute.
>
> Facebook does also have massive UI plusses over email, I appreciate people
> don't like Suckerberger, but we do sooner or later have to face facts
> pretty much no one under 30 these days uses email outside of work!
>
> Cheers,
> Mark
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Meteorite-list [mailto:meteorite-list-bounces at meteoritecentral.com]
> On Behalf Of Michael Gilmer via Meteorite-list
> Sent: 15 June 2020 14:26
> To: Roberto Vargas
> Cc: bigjohnshea at mail.com; Adam Hupe; metlist
> Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Meteoritical Bulletin Main Mass photos
>
> HI Roberto,
>
> I love ya man, but I gotta tear this post apart. LOL.
>
> "Thankfully, we all have the freedom to choose where to post and engage
> with
>> the community."
>
> If Zuck had his way, we wouldn't have this freedom.
>
> " I use Facebook. Facebook has features that email will never have
>> (video, live feeds, pictures, etc)."
>
> FB invented none of those things and does not have a monopoly (yet) on
> any of them. There are plenty of other apps and venues that offer live
> video, photos, etc. One can easily upload photos to a cloud account or
> website and link to them on this List. One can easily host a live feed
> on numerous streaming platforms and link to them here. That is how it
> used to be done, before FB came along and sucked all the oxygen out of
> the room.
>
> For example, people would upload their Tucson or Ensisheim pics to
> Photobucket, Flickr, or their website and then link them here. It just
> involves a couple of extra clicks to bypass FB entirely for this
> functionality.
>
> '"I kind of cI kind of concur with the sentiment that this email list
> is dead/dying. I
>> love the daily MPoD vial email, but aside from that, this vehicle for
>> sharing and engaging with others is antiquated and obsolete.oncur with
>> the sentiment that this email list is dead/dying. I
>> love the daily MPoD vial email, but aside from that, this vehicle for
>> sharing and engaging with others is antiquated and obsolete."
>
> Over the years, I have seen this list wax and wane with activity. I
> hope it will recover from this recent dry spell. I would argue that
> this list is not obsolete, just suffering from a case of widespread
> psychosis that somehow Zuckerberg's playground is better than the
> medium itself that created it.
>
> "However, I am grateful that it is still available for those of us who
> cannot
>> or will not change with the times. "
>
> If the times are changing to an online world where Facebook, Amazon,
> and Google control everything, then count me out. I'll fly my Luddite
> flag proudly.
>
> " I believe those members have valuable
>> insight into meteorites and their history and I would sad to lose what
>> could
>> be gained from them because they cannot or choose not to grasp how to use
>> Facebook or other social media platforms."
>
> Indeed, it would be sad. And that is exactly what FB and Zuck are
> trying to do - put venues like this out of business and gobble up
> their audiences. Oh, I grasp FB and how to use it. And I have an
> active presence on some non-Facebook platforms. My apparent beef is
> not with social media itself, it is with Facebook and it's policies.
> Ello and Mastodon are better than FB all day long and twice on
> sundays.
>
> "At the end of the day, some will move to Facebook and join the rest of
> us,
>> while others will stay here (until the number of people that are left
>> here
>> is so small that it is really just an archive). "
>
> I was the rest of us. When I first joined FB in early 2009, there was
> exactly one large-ish meteorite group and just one or two other
> dealers actively selling in other groups outside that one. We were
> pretty lonely for a while and I was one of those people (like you)
> singing the praises of social media and Facebook. Then everybody
> started coming to FB and the List started getting quieter and quieter.
> And FB started getting crazier and crazier, and then the algorithms
> kicked in, and then Zuck took off his mask and showed his true colors.
> You wanna roll with that guy, despite knowing what he's about?
>
> Well, as long as Art keeps the lights turned on (so to speak), I am
> going to try to help keep this List going. All of the content I used
> to post on FB will now go here - new fall reports, met bull updates,
> research links, articles, original essays, *links* to photos, etc.
>
> Art > Zuckerberg.
>
> Met-List > Facebook.
>
> No matter what ends up happening, the above two statements will always
> remain true, even if FB gobbles up the online world and this list
> becomes the Ozymandias of meteorite discussion.
>
> Best regards and stay safe!
>
> MikeG
>
>
> On 6/14/20, Roberto Vargas via Meteorite-list
> <meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com> wrote:
>> Hi all,
>> Thankfully, we all have the freedom to choose where to post and engage
>> with
>> the community. In my opinion, email is best used for private messages
>> between members, but not really a great medium for forum-like content. As
>> such, I use Facebook. Facebook has features that email will never have
>> (video, live feeds, pictures, etc).
>> I kind of concur with the sentiment that this email list is dead/dying. I
>> love the daily MPoD vial email, but aside from that, this vehicle for
>> sharing and engaging with others is antiquated and obsolete.
>> However, I am grateful that it is still available for those of us who
>> cannot
>> or will not change with the times. I believe those members have valuable
>> insight into meteorites and their history and I would sad to lose what
>> could
>> be gained from them because they cannot or choose not to grasp how to use
>> Facebook or other social media platforms.
>> At the end of the day, some will move to Facebook and join the rest of
>> us,
>> while others will stay here (until the number of people that are left
>> here
>> is so small that it is really just an archive). Just my personal opinion.
>> Thanks,
>> Roberto V
>>
>> Get Outlook for iOS<https://aka.ms/o0ukef>
>> ________________________________
>> From: Meteorite-list <meteorite-list-bounces at meteoritecentral.com> on
>> behalf
>> of Bigjohn Shea via Meteorite-list <meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com>
>> Sent: Sunday, June 14, 2020 6:18:42 PM
>> To: Adam Hupe <raremeteorites at centurylink.net>; metlist
>> <meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com>
>> Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Meteoritical Bulletin Main Mass photos
>>
>> Everything we do on the internet (including your last email) is being
>> spied
>> on. No reason at all to bother worrying about facebook... LOL
>>
>>
>>
>> On 6/14/20 at 1:56 PM, Adam Hupe via Meteorite-list wrote:
>>
>>> Zuckerberg doesn't even use his own services and makes six million
>>> dollars
>>> a day gathering personal information on others.
>>>
>>> I have never supported his crap and never will.
>>>
>>> I leave it to my lovely wife who uses this service despite the pitfalls
>>> and is very careful about everything she posts not wanting to ruin her
>>> social profile.
>>>
>>> Now back to removing a camera and microphone hidden in my brand new
>>> flat-screen even though doing so violates the warranty. I do not want
>>> some idiot watching me while I am watching NASCAR.
>>>
>>> Adam
>>>
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