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Re: Philanthropic instead of ego-based marketing ideas would be welcome
Erich, I am a little confused about your comments. Do you mean to bash people
who post ads as being bad or people who sell meteorites for more than you do? I
am just curious because I do post ads on this list, I do not take advantage of
the list, I have only posted about 4 ads in several months. I will continue to
do so since the little list war we had about it ended with the vast majority
giving consent to post limited ads on the list. If it is about people charging
higher prices than you I do not really get the point of that. If dealers must
buy from other dealers, it stands to reason that some will be forced to charge
more. My prices are often somewhat higher than other dealers since I am a small
dealer/collector. I however am able to send people orders as low as 2 or 3
dollars and respond to their requests within hours not months like some larger
dealers on this list. If a dealer wishes to charge a higher price than others,
that is his choice and right to do so, the buyer is solely responsible for
doing their homework and finding the best price and weighing the difference
with the level of service, shipping cost and time (from Europe for example)
etc. I have tried several times to buy from unnamed European dealers (not the
Labennes) to save a few dollars only to be waiting weeks for response and after
a month of receiving confirmation for an order placed that it had been shipped,
I found out that the order had never even been processed only after calling the
credit card company to see if I had been charged! People must weigh these
things to decide if paying a little more is worth the weeks of hassle.
If this is solely a personal attack on a certain dealer which I know it
is, why don't we just tell the whole story which includes neat little parts
involving the police at the show several times. Otherwise I think it would
benefit everyone to leave his or her personal deals out of the list.
As far as the spirit of giving, I just got off of the phone with the teacher of
a science department of a school here in Tucson where I made arrangements to
donate about $500 worth of meteorites to the school! Those of you who know me
know that I have little money to do this but I want to give children the chance
to hold meteorites, not just see them in a museum! If we are going to try to be
philanthropists, lets give our meteorites to schools so kids can get
interested.
I must follow the lead and post my own special, I will offer to anyone on this
list Sikhote-Alin and Tunguska stamps for only $10.00 each in mint condition or
$7 each in canceled condition. I have found a few and can offer them cheaper.
Thanks
Mike Farmer http://www.concentric.net/~farmerm
Haiderer Erich wrote:
> As predicted some over inflated prices are crumbling immediately after our
> statement ("that we will enforce to stop overpricing by some resellers.")
> It seems to be a common strategy by a few dealers to buy our stock up
> (often at international shows ).
> Then when they think they got everything there is they try to over inflate
> the price (and advertise it soon after as a "special" to friends or a
> privileged group).
> Once those dealers (there are at least 3 who do so in this country)
> recognize that we still have material and offer it for a still fair price
> they get panicked and try (unsuccessfully of course) to undercut our own
> low-prices . It is interesting ,yes even ridiculous , that all these (3)
> dealers didn't pay their bills to us yet .
> Instead of paying to us what they promised or to be willing to give back
> all our merchandises they try to escape there obligations. - Of course as
> they dont take care about there customers either (they should have offered
> them our low price at the first hand) - what else should you expect ! !
> But by now we think we have given a firm signal to all "insiders" that
> nobody and no strategy whatsoever can stop us to provide high quality
> meteorites at affordable and/or surprising prices to everybody who knows
> us.
> We know many will agitate us for that - but our main goal in providing fine
> meteorites is of philanthropic nature !
> In cosmic respect to our great success in the last season we will make a
> $770 donation to old and handicapped people by next week ! I hope other
> dealers will join this technique of competition.
> Instead of verbal fights on this list other well-doing dealers should show
> their gratitude by giving donations to people, animals or groups in need.
> I hope as much as somebody can really beat our prices on meteorites (and
> not only pretend to) somebody can also beat our donations by the amount
> given to people, animals or groups in need.
> Also:
> As an free gift to members of the list I may offer to anybody :
> Either a Hamada du Draa fragment or a Moldavite museum-quality (as
> advertised in our URL: http://www.meteorite.com/Erichs).
> No purchase necessary - just send a $5 check for postage and handling to
> the US !
> Cosmic objects shall not anymore be the privilege of a chosen (well-paying)
> group !
> Also we hope other dealers join in this strategy to donate or give some
> free samples
> (maybe even more valuable than ours ) to the members of the list !
> Members of the list deserved dealers gratitude after all this dirty verbal
> warfare on the list last year which was all about ego-games and making
> money in an obscure way!
> Thank you for you precious time.
> Regards Sylvia + Erich H. Haiderer
> ********************************************************************
> Erich H. Haiderer Erich_Haiderer_5@compuserve.com
> (meteorite dealer - in business since 1977)
> Phone:++43 (0)1-368 1888 or ++43 (0) 676-388-1888
> Fax: ++43 (0)1-368 1880 or ++43 (0) 676-388-1889
>
> P.S.: We didn't mean Ken Regelman whom we respect like other dealers who
> try to serve science and humans approach to new territory and who try to
> make appropriate money in exchange for their time and exploration invested!
> Compliments to them!
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