[meteorite-list] NWA482 Total Weight?
From: Michael Farmer <farmerm_at_meteoritecentral.com>
Date: Thu Apr 22 10:07:06 2004 Message-ID: <006201c28125$581d8d60$df000140_at_computer> This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_005F_01C280EA.AA5E3B00 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Mark, do you see my point, that out of the blue people keep dredging = this up. This has gone on for too long. I have heard all of the rumors, = and many more, such as that we never paid for the stone, we stole it, I = went to jail in Morocco (Your bud Bessey posted that one) etc etc etc. = See Mark? I dont like people saying such things. You claim to have been = offered the stone, I do not believe that at all, only one other person = saw that meteorite before we bought it. He was a German buyer.=20 I just want to get this out once and for all Mark, your email hit me by = surprise that is for sure.=20 Let's continue to be friends, I have always considered you a friend, and = hope that you will not help to spread and propagate rumors.=20 Mike Farmer ----- Original Message -----=20 From: MARK BOSTICK=20 To: Michael Farmer ; Meteorite List=20 Sent: Thursday, October 31, 2002 1:15 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] NWA482 Total Weight? Clam down a little Mike. Sorry, if you seen that as an attack against = you Mike, it was just something I have wondered about for a while, = something I have heard others wonder about as well...so I asked. I have = no problem with you or Strope and I think you two have done a great job = on getting many of these African meteorite classified. Something we are = all greatfull for.=20 The fact is however, the stone was offered to most of the people that = deal in moroccan meteorites and it was reportably 1278 grams. I do not = know anything about the deal you and the Hupes had in morocco and I do = not claim to know. Also, I have not claimed to have been to morrocco = before Jan. 2001, just that I was offered the stone, as was most of the = people that have purchased meteorites from morocco were offered the = stone and that I was told it was 1278 grams. Believe it or not, you do = not have to go to Morocco to purchase from there. I do not know anything = about troubles you and European dealers have had and I do not think that = has anything to do with me. I have sold some penthouses on eBay, like = the issue with Marilyn Monroes photos, but to say that Penthouse is all = I was selling a year ago is quite far fetched. I have met the Hupes on a couple occasions now and have e-mailed with = them several times. I have purchased from them and sold to them. They = are probley the two most people excited by African meteorites and have = put a lot of time, effort and money into their finds, the hobby is = better off with them around I believe. When I first arrived at Blaine = Reed's room in Denver, Adam took out his latest Mars rock and placed it = in my hand. Being the largest piece of Mars I have ever touched I = thought that was pretty cool. =20 NWA482 is a very nice meteorite and most of your investors are quite = happy so I think you can consider that a success. I purchased a 0.170 = gram piece from Jim Strope many months ago and am quite happy with it. = It has a glass vein and a bump on the crust from a flow line, what more = could you ask for in a small specimen? Not sure of any legal trouble I could get into asking a question and = saying what I was told before you even had the stone. Unlike you own = e-mail, I did not mention any dealer or person in a negative way. This = is possibly an error or a misleading on a moroccan dealers part, however = I do not feel wrong is asking from more information. Mark Bostick ----- Original Message ----- From: Michael Farmer Sent: Thursday, October 31, 2002 1:05 PM To: MARK BOSTICK; Meteorite List Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] NWA482 Total Weight? Wow Mark, you sure know alot for having been selling nothing but = Penthouse porno mags back then. How did you see it if you have never = been to Africa? That would be a neat trick. I have a sworn statement as = to the weight by the man who sold it to Jim and I, sworn in front of the = police in Er Rachidia Province of Morocco, filed in Rabat, Er Rachidia, = and Erfoud. I have made a scan of this and will post it in a few hours = to anyone who would like to see it.=20 Mark, we all know that the rumors flew after the purchase of that = rock, all coming from other dealers, most in Europe, who did not see or = buy the stone, but needless to say, were not happy by Jim and I swooping = in and buying up the second largest lunar meteorite ever found right = from under their noses. Sounds like sour grapes to me. The Hupes are now = trying to corner the market in Morocco, as they arrived there last = Friday night as I was leaving Africa. In doing so, they are now it = seems, trying to spread some dissent among my suppliers and customers. I = hope they decide to call me ASAP while on their way back to Seattle, = before I have to let out a little more damaging information tonight. Mark, you and Dean need to get help, show us all your passport that = shows you were in Morocco before Jan 2001, Ill bet you cant can you? It = is easy to scan or photograph, if you cant, then I suggest you not lie = about any knowledge of things like that. It could get you into heavy = legal trouble.=20 Mike Farmer ----- Original Message -----=20 From: MARK BOSTICK=20 To: Meteorite List=20 Sent: Thursday, October 31, 2002 10:26 AM Subject: [meteorite-list] NWA482 Total Weight? Hello list, I am curious....when the lunar meteorite NWA482 was being offered = around morocco it was 1278 grams and not 1015 as later reported. Most = of us thought it was a eucrite and the asking price of $10.00 was too = much, ala over $10,000. (Wish I would have known its real origin then). = Anyway....what happened to the other 250 grams? Was this cut off in = Morocco and if so where is it now. A few small pieces were cut off in = Morocco but what appeared missing was small enough that several photo = angles could be taken and you not see the window or windows. =20 So either, there is two NWA482 stones, 250 grams got lost?, or the = moroccans have a very bad scale. Does anyone else know more about this? Mark ------=_NextPart_000_005F_01C280EA.AA5E3B00 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN"> <HTML><HEAD> <META http-equiv=3DContent-Type content=3D"text/html; = charset=3Diso-8859-1"> <META content=3D"MSHTML 5.50.4134.600" name=3DGENERATOR></HEAD> <BODY=20 style=3D"BORDER-RIGHT: medium none; BORDER-TOP: medium none; FONT: 10pt = verdana; BORDER-LEFT: medium none; BORDER-BOTTOM: medium none; = BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff"=20 bgColor=3D#ffffff> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial> Mark, do you see my point, = that out of=20 the blue people keep dredging this up. This has gone on for too long. I = have=20 heard all of the rumors, and many more, such as that we never paid for = the=20 stone, we stole it, I went to jail in Morocco (Your bud Bessey posted = that one)=20 etc etc etc. See Mark? I dont like people saying such things. You claim = to have=20 been offered the stone, I do not believe that at all, only one other = person saw=20 that meteorite before we bought it. He was a German buyer. </FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial>I just want to get this out once and for all = Mark, your=20 email hit me by surprise that is for sure. </FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial>Let's continue to be friends, I have always = considered you=20 a friend, and hope that you will not help to spread and propagate = rumors.=20 </FONT></DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial>Mike Farmer</FONT></DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE dir=3Dltr=20 style=3D"PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; = BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px"> <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV> <DIV=20 style=3D"BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: = black"><B>From:</B>=20 <A title=3Dthebigcollector_at_msn.com = href=3D"mailto:thebigcollector_at_msn.com">MARK=20 BOSTICK</A> </DIV> <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A = title=3Dfarmerm_at_concentric.net=20 href=3D"mailto:farmerm_at_concentric.net">Michael Farmer</A> ; <A=20 title=3Dmeteorite-list_at_meteoritecentral.com=20 href=3D"mailto:meteorite-list_at_meteoritecentral.com">Meteorite List</A> = </DIV> <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Thursday, October 31, = 2002 1:15=20 PM</DIV> <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: [meteorite-list] = NWA482=20 Total Weight?</DIV> <DIV><BR></DIV> <DIV>Clam down a little Mike. Sorry, if you seen that as an = attack=20 against you Mike, it was just something I have wondered about for a = while,=20 something I have heard others wonder about as well...so I asked. = I have=20 no problem with you or Strope and I think you two have done a great=20 job on getting many of these African meteorite=20 classified. Something we are all greatfull for. </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>The fact is however, the stone was offered to most of the people = that=20 deal in moroccan meteorites and it was reportably 1278 = grams. I do=20 not know anything about the deal you and the Hupes had in morocco and = I do not=20 claim to know. Also, I have not claimed to have been to morrocco = before=20 Jan. 2001, just that I was offered the stone, as was most of the = people that=20 have purchased meteorites from morocco were offered the stone and = that I=20 was told it was 1278 grams. Believe it or not, you do not = have to go=20 to Morocco to purchase from there. I do not know anything about = troubles you=20 and European dealers have had and I do not think that has anything to = do with=20 me. I have sold some penthouses on eBay, like the issue with = Marilyn=20 Monroes photos, but to say that Penthouse is all I was selling a year = ago is=20 quite far fetched.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>I have met the Hupes on a couple occasions now and have e-mailed = with=20 them several times. I have purchased from them and sold to=20 them. They are probley the two most people excited by African = meteorites=20 and have put a lot of time, effort and money into their finds, the = hobby is=20 better off with them around I believe. When I first = arrived at=20 Blaine Reed's room in Denver, Adam took out his latest Mars rock and = placed it=20 in my hand. Being the largest piece of Mars I have ever touched = I=20 thought that was pretty cool. </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>NWA482 is a very nice meteorite and most of your investors = are quite=20 happy so I think you can consider that a success. I purchased a = 0.170=20 gram piece from Jim Strope many months ago and am quite happy with = it. =20 It has a glass vein and a bump on the crust from a flow line, what = more could=20 you ask for in a small specimen?</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Not sure of any legal trouble I could get into asking a question = and=20 saying what I was told before you even had the stone. Unlike you = own=20 e-mail, I did not mention any dealer or person in a negative = way. This=20 is possibly an error or a misleading on a moroccan dealers = part,=20 however I do not feel wrong is asking from more information.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Mark Bostick</DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE=20 style=3D"PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; = BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px"> <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt Arial">----- Original Message -----</DIV> <DIV=20 style=3D"BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt Arial; COLOR: = black"><B>From:</B>=20 Michael Farmer</DIV> <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt Arial"><B>Sent:</B> Thursday, October 31, = 2002 1:05=20 PM</DIV> <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt Arial"><B>To:</B> MARK BOSTICK; Meteorite = List</DIV> <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt Arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: [meteorite-list] = NWA482=20 Total Weight?</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <META content=3D"MSHTML 5.50.4134.600" name=3DGENERATOR> <STYLE></STYLE> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial>Wow Mark, you sure know alot for having been = selling=20 nothing but Penthouse porno mags back then. How did you see it if = you have=20 never been to Africa? That would be a neat trick. I have a sworn = statement=20 as to the weight by the man who sold it to Jim and I, sworn in front = of the=20 police in Er Rachidia Province of Morocco, filed in Rabat, Er = Rachidia, and=20 Erfoud. I have made a scan of this and will post it in a few hours = to anyone=20 who would like to see it. </FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial>Mark, we all know that the rumors flew after = the=20 purchase of that rock, all coming from other dealers, most in = Europe, who=20 did not see or buy the stone, but needless to say, were not happy by = Jim and=20 I swooping in and buying up the second largest lunar meteorite ever = found=20 right from under their noses. Sounds like sour grapes to me. The = Hupes are=20 now trying to corner the market in Morocco, as they arrived there = last=20 Friday night as I was leaving Africa. In doing so, they are now it = seems,=20 trying to spread some dissent among my suppliers and customers. I = hope they=20 decide to call me ASAP while on their way back to Seattle, before I = have to=20 let out a little more damaging information tonight.</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial>Mark, you and Dean need to get help, show us = all your=20 passport that shows you were in Morocco before Jan 2001, Ill bet you = cant=20 can you? It is easy to scan or photograph, if you cant, then I = suggest you=20 not lie about any knowledge of things like that. It could get = you into=20 heavy legal trouble. </FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial>Mike Farmer</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial></FONT> </DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE dir=3Dltr=20 style=3D"PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; = BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px"> <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- = </DIV> <DIV=20 style=3D"BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: = black"><B>From:</B>=20 <A title=3Dthebigcollector_at_msn.com=20 href=3D"mailto:thebigcollector_at_msn.com">MARK BOSTICK</A> </DIV> <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A=20 title=3Dmeteorite-list_at_meteoritecentral.com=20 href=3D"mailto:meteorite-list_at_meteoritecentral.com">Meteorite = List</A>=20 </DIV> <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Thursday, October 31, = 2002=20 10:26 AM</DIV> <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> [meteorite-list] = NWA482=20 Total Weight?</DIV> <DIV><BR></DIV> <DIV>Hello list,</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>I am curious....when the lunar meteorite NWA482 was being = offered=20 around morocco it was 1278 grams and not 1015 as later=20 reported. Most of us thought it was a eucrite and the = asking=20 price of $10.00 was too much, ala over $10,000. (Wish I = would have=20 known its real origin then). Anyway....what happened to the = other=20 250 grams? Was this cut off in Morocco and if so where is it = now. A few small pieces were cut off in Morocco but what = appeared=20 missing was small enough that several photo angles could be taken = and you=20 not see the window or windows. </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>So either, there is two NWA482 stones, 250 grams got lost?, = or the=20 moroccans have a very bad scale. Does anyone else know more = about=20 this?</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> = <DIV>Mark<BR><BR></DIV></BLOCKQUOTE></BLOCKQUOTE></BLOCKQUOTE></BODY></HT= ML> ------=_NextPart_000_005F_01C280EA.AA5E3B00-- Received on Thu 31 Oct 2002 04:34:48 PM PST |
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