[meteorite-list] Pellisson, the end of a free meteorite hobby?

From: dean bessey <deanbessey_at_meteoritecentral.com>
Date: Fri Dec 3 17:46:00 2004
Message-ID: <20041203224557.19035.qmail_at_web12306.mail.yahoo.com>

Hmmmm. Maybe an apology is in order. Are you saying
that Bruno and Carine is full of #$_at_$ and that you
have never said that meteorites are being used to
support terrorism? Has bruno faked that part of what
appears to be your website and saying that it is from
you?
And can you confirm that you have not used my name or
anything that I wrote publicly or privately in french
court or media to support this ridiculous claim that
deset nomads are somehow supporting al quida which you
know as well as anybody is not true?
Can you confirm that my name was never used in french
court and if it was can you spell out exactly by whom
and in what context? (Sorry my french is non existant
so I need an english translation).
Since we are trying to be civil please answer those
questions in a straitforward manner for me. I think
everybody else on this list would appriciate the
honest answer also so as to clear up any
misunderstandings about the rumours that has been
flying around.
Sincerely
DEAN BESSEY






--- SaharaTeam_at_aol.com wrote:

> Let us explain the French problem with B. Fectay/C.
> Bidaut
>
> Bruno Fectay and Carine Bidaut have sued us in March
> 2004 for libel. It is
> "only" a civil action between B. Fectay/C. Bidaut
> and us to claim for
> damages.
> Now we are also claiming for damages against them.
>
> It will take several months to the justice before to
> return a verdict.
> As you can imagine, nothing is illegally done in
> front of the court :
> private emails are not admissible.
> And "nobody" can be summoned to appear in a civil
> action.
>
> All the remarks and all the publicity which have
> been given to this affair
> are the consequences of this civil action.
>
> Regarding our web page on NWA meteorites, the French
> court decided in our
> favor:
> "Il ne peut être contesté que le débat sur les lieux
> de découvertes des
> météorites est légitime et présente un intérêt
> scientifique. La même
> légitimité doit être reconnue pour les discussions
> sur le transport et les
> opérations commerciales relatives à ces météorites"
>
> We hope that everybody can return to his passion.
> And we wish that those
> interested by the subject will wait for the official
> decision.
> And if Bruno Fectay has something to express why
> does he needs to write
> through N. Classen and not with his own email ?
>
>
> For those who want to know more about us and our
> work on Saharan
> strewnfields, you can browse our web pages:
> http://www.SaharaMet.com
>
> And our 2003 expedition on Mauritanian craters:
>
http://www.saharamet.com/expedition/2003/craters.html
>
> Best regards,
> Richard and Roland Pelisson
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Norbert Classen" <trifid_at_timewarp.de>
> To: "meteorite-list"
> <meteorite-list_at_meteoritecentral.com>
> Cc: "La Memoire de la Terre" <info_at_meteorite.fr>
> Sent: Friday, December 03, 2004 6:38 AM
> Subject: [meteorite-list] Pellisson, the end of a
> free meteorite hobby?
>
>
> > Hi All,
> >
> > I'm forwarding this message on behalf of Bruno &
> Carine.
> > They are having problems to post to the list, and
> thus they
> > asked me for assistance. Please read below.
> >
> > BTW, I believe their message to be of major
> importance to
> > us all. We shouldn't allow a few rotten apples to
> spoil our
> > hobby - so please read what Bruno & Carine have
> to say since
> > it affects us all, and a few of us, more
> directly.
> >
> > If you want to take action, please contact Bruno
> & Carine in
> > that matter. You may reach them via:
> info_at_meteorite.fr
> >
> > Best,
> > Norbert
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> >
> > Dear List Members,
> >
> > this subject is of high interest as it will affect
> all of us
> > including the scientists. What the Pellissons are
> doing is just
> > unbelievable, they already did contact the French
> interior
> > Ministry as well as the Customs offices in
> different countries.
> > They are linking the meteorite community to
> terrorism in different
> > ways.
> >
> > They did send to major medias a 64 pages document
> full of crap
> > with parts of YOUR private and public mails to try
> to establish
> > that nobody but themselves have the right to sell
> meteorites!!
> >
> > Be aware than in a close future we will all have
> problems shipping
> > or crossing borders with meteorites, thanks to
> them!
> > Just try a Google search for "money for terrorism"
> and you will get
> > straight to their page, listed in first place....
> see it here:
> >
> >
>
http://www.google.fr/search?hl=fr&q=%22money+for+terrorism%22&meta=
> >
> > They are using metanames and cross linking
> > with pages about horrible things just to attract
> interest on them.
> >
> > You all know that we did bring them to court,
> they already have been
> > sentenced in emergency during the last Tucson
> show. Now we are driving
> > them to serious things, we received their list of
> pseudo arguments
> > from our attorneys.
> >
> > Here is the list of the people they are involving
> in front of the Judge
> > and the Lyon's Court (the second biggest in
> France), they are using
> > parts of your public and private emails to try to
> explain why meteorites
> > (except of their own) are funding terrorism.
> >
> > Warning: be aware that these documents are used to
> prove that either
> > you 100% agree with them and support their ideas
> or that you are involved
> > in funding islamist networks......
> >
> > Privates:
> > Mr Bernd Pauli
> > Mr Eric Twelker
> > Mr Art Jones
> > Mr Alain Carion
> > Mr Michael Farmer
> > Mr Michel Franco
> > Mr Aziz Habibi
> > Mr Nelson Oakes
> > Mr Bob Verish
> > Mr Greg and Adam Hupe
> > Mr Tracy Latimer
> > Mr Luc Labenne
> > Mr Dean Bessey
> > Mr Matteo Chinellato
> >
> > Scientists:
> > Dr Zenda
> > Dr Grossman
> > Dr Barrat
> > Dr Treiman
> > Dr Huss
> > Dr Gillet
> > Dr Jambon
> > Dr Bunch
> > the whole Meteoritical Society
> > the AMNH of New York
> > the MNHN of Paris
> >
> > And this is only a resume of the thing, it would
> take days to translate
> > the horrors they are building. As an example they
> are trying to explain
> > that the MNHN of Paris did send Michel Franco to
> build a new network
> > for funding Al Queda and they sent that to the
> French medias...
> >
> > What will be the next step? Child abuse? Drug
> traffic? If we don't stop
> > them now be sure everybody will get in trouble
> because of the wonderful
> > hobby we share: meteorites.
> >
> > As your names and private emails have been used by
> them in a public
> > court and have been transmitted to medias and
> Customs offices
> > worldwide, you have the right to ask them a
> translated copy of the way
>
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Received on Fri 03 Dec 2004 05:45:57 PM PST