[meteorite-list] Value of Nationalized Meteorites
From: Michael Farmer <meteoritehunter_at_meteoritecentral.com>
Date: Mon Feb 20 19:39:51 2006
Car you crazy Dean? Those stones are priceless! The USA spent billions of
$$$ to go there and get them, so you cant put a market value on them.
The bastards deserve every second they have rotting in prison. I cant
believe one of them is dumb enough to break the rules so bad they got sent
to a Supermax prison, that is where the worst of the worst go. Shows he must
be a little more than a petty thief.
----- Original Message -----
From: "dean bessey" <deanbessey_at_yahoo.com>
To: "MARK BOSTICK" <thebigcollector_at_msn.com>;
Sent: Monday, February 20, 2006 5:32 PM
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Value of Nationalized Meteorites
>I wonder who the 3 "Individuals who buy and sell
> meteorites" are:
> The meteorites, martian samples and lunar samples
> taken in the theft of the safe from my lab at NASA's
> Johnson Space Center were appraised by three
> individuals who buy and sell meteorites.
> Obviously they are a little out of touch with the
> meteorite market and cant differentiate between if .03
> gram and several pounds were released. I still
> remember how chessagny was considered by everybody to
> be worth $100,000 a gram until steve Arnold traded for
> half a gram driving the price to I believe $10,000.
> As some people might say on the list I suspect that 3
> or 4 grams would put their estimated "price in ruin".
> Those people who got put in jail for years based on
> stealing meteorites with a market value so hi surely
> got ripped off during sentensing if the prisen term
> would have been lighter if the actual price that the
> meteorites could have been sold at in the market was
> taken into account rather than a theoritical valuation
> that has no resemblence to reality.
> --- MARK BOSTICK <thebigcollector_at_msn.com> wrote:
>> Hello list,
>> Dr. Everett Gibson, who is not a list member, did
>> have a few comments along
>> our discussion, which he is once again is kindly
>> letting me share with the
>> The meat on the pricing related here is: ~103 grams
>> for 7-8 million on the
>> low side, to ~234 million on the high side. Which
>> is $70,000-80,000 a gram,
>> to a little over 2 million a gram.
>> Clear Skies,
>> Mark Bostick
>> The meteorites, martian samples and lunar
>> samples taken in the theft
>> the safe from my lab at NASA's Johnson Space Center
>> were appraised by three
>> individuals who buy and sell meteorites. The
>> monetary values determined by
>> three appraisers was used in the trial of Gordon
>> McWhorter and the
>> hearing for Thad Roberts. I would prefer not to
>> give the monetary values
>> determined by the appraisers but I can tell you the
>> value for the ALH84001
>> sample was staggering.
>> The attorneys argued over whether the cost of
>> the Apollo program
>> be "figured" into the value of the lunar samples.
>> The monetary value of
>> samples figured into the length of the sentences
>> given the defendants.
>> Taking the weight of the 53 different lunar samples
>> stolen (~103 grams total
>> weight stolen) along with the mass of returned lunar
>> samples from the six
>> missions, and costs for the missions. The top
>> value of the appraised
>> came to ~$234 million dollars. The lower value was
>> in the $7 to 8 million
>> dollar range-excluding selected Apollo mission costs
>> . The actual numbers
>> in the court testimony which I have not seen because
>> as a witness I was
>> excluded from that testimony.
>> As a side light, McWhorter was found guilty
>> and sentenced to ~60 or 70
>> months in federal custody. He is currently in the
>> Fort Worth Federal
>> Facility and is not scheduled to be released until
>> April 2008. Thad
>> was sentenced to 90 months federal custody. His
>> last appeal (based on his
>> belief that he was sentenced too harshly) has just
>> been denied within the
>> two months. He has recently been transferred from
>> the medium level
>> facility in Florence, CO to the Super Maximum
>> Security Facility (SUPER-MAX!)
>> Florence, CO because of failing to obey the rules.
>> Roberts is scheduled to
>> be released the end of January 2009.
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