[meteorite-list] WG: Global Warming - etc

From: Allan Treiman <treiman_at_meteoritecentral.com>
Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2007 16:11:07 -0500
Message-ID: <E6657AD7-FF04-4902-8F5B-D661BD6F52AB_at_lpi.usra.edu>

Burning ice??? Is that in the Bible?
Could they have found some methane clathrate?


Allan Treiman
Lunar and Planetary Institute
3600 Bay Area Boulevard
Houston TX 77058 USA

treiman at lpi.usra.edu

On Jun 11, 2007, at 3:41 PM, Michael L Blood wrote:

> Hi Martin,
> Actually, many meteorites are reported to have killed
> people....
> but none I know of that are available or close to having a solid
> provenience. One was discussed at length on the list just a couple
> of months ago - some Roman officer and a bunch of his men. I
> believe the Bible has more than one incident reported as well.
> Hell, I would like to have one of the frogs in formaldehyde from
> the 7 plagues of Egypt, not to mention the burning ice.
> A documented KILLER meteorite? I would buy all I could!
> (By the way, Dr. Deits, one of the first to propose
> "continental
> drift" in the early 1900s was quoted as saying he wanted to die
> being struck by a meteorite, then fossilized and recovered by future
> generations).
> Best wishes, Michael
> on 6/11/07 1:09 PM, Martin Altmann at altmann at meteorite-martin.de
> wrote:
>> Forwarded from Andi Gren, who doesn't come through neither
>> (well Andi, at least I would pay a good price for that L6, if it
>> will hit a
>> certain person in Illinois...just a joke):
>> Hi Tim , List , all involved in this interesting treat,
>> Your suggestion about the Asteroid wiping out half of the planet
>> and then be
>> sold on e bay brings me back to Meteorites.
>> When I have seen the first time a picture from the Lady hit by the
>> Sylacauga Meteorite, I was happy to know it's not reported a
>> Meteorite ever
>> kills a person. It makes our hobby in some way more peaceful. But
>> I always
>> asking my self what would happen if a Meteorite would kill a
>> person? The
>> Hammers and Cow killers are well paid and I know Sylacauga was
>> very very
>> well paid at a meteorite auction this year at the Tucson show.
>> So would the Meteorite be the most expensive L6 ever been sold?
>> Ore would
>> nobody like to own a slice of a human killer hammer? Ok, I'm sure
>> everybody
>> would agree an impact kit is out of respect, but what's about the
>> Meteorite,
>> who would like to own a human killer Hammer?
>> best greetings
>> Andi
>> We are a society that starves our grandchildren to feed our children.
>> All the signs are there to prove that Mother Earth cannot take
>> anymore of
>> the pollution and the destruction we throw at her.
>> We are seeing increasing numbers of Tsunami's, Volcanic eruptions and
>> Earthquakes even here in England we are experiencing this.
>> One really sad thing I see is one day an Asteroid comes and hits
>> us and
>> wipes out half the planet I see unfortunately some humans would
>> try and
>> drag the remnants of it away and attempt to sell it on Ebay
>> because cash
>> is all that is worshipped.
>>> Mike,
>>> Look at the positive side of this for our hobby and business...
>>> With Global Warming (that some doubt) the Arctic will have less ice,
>>> and our grass and farmlands lands will become deserts. Just imagine
>>> all the new meteorites that will become exposed and available to us
>>> collectors.
>>> And the prices will go down, too.
>>> But all of these benefits will be far outweighed by the economic
>>> impact
>>> of Global Warming that the Republican "Bushites" doubt. A natural
>>> cycle, some say, but look at the ice in the Arctic that
>>> environmental
>>> scientists are coring. It certainly shows a vastly greater
>>> increase in
>>> carbon dioxide emissions over the last 150 years that corresponds
>>> directly to human activity during our Industrial Revolution. The
>>> greatest increase in 900,000 years. And just think, 600,000
>>> years ago
>>> Yellowstone caldera supervolcano erupted, a brief yet catastrophic
>>> event for the entire earth. It's overall impact was small
>>> compared to
>>> what we are doing now.
>>> But back to meteorites... The prices will drop as more are
>>> found due
>>> to the melting of Arctic ice, desertfication of our grass and
>>> farmlands... But the question is... Who will buy them once the
>>> economic
>>> crunch of Global Warming hits our pocket books?
>>> Steve Schoner
>>> IMCA #4470
>>> -- Michael Farmer <meteoriteguy at yahoo.com> wrote:
>>> Steve, not likely in our lifetimes, the money that
>>> could have been spent going back to the moon, building
>>> a permant base, then going to Mars, all of it could
>>> have been done with the money we have pissed away in
>>> Iraq. But hey, look at it this way, Haliburton moved
>>> to Dubai to be closer to the money, they are taking
>>> good care of it for us, the taxpayers.
>>> Enough of things that do not pertain to meteorites
>>> though, we have all had our say and I will leave this
>>> topic since I have a meteorite show to attend and then
>>> meteorites to dig up in the Arctic.
>>> Michael Farmer
>>> --- Steve Schoner <schoner at mybluelight.com> wrote:
>>>> So true Mike Farmer. That is the problem with our
>>>> age. We want
>>>> everything never taking into consideration what we
>>>> leave those that
>>>> follow us after we are dead and gone.
>>>> They will curse us or thank us for what we do now.
>>>> But to do nothing about global warming now, which is
>>>> a scientifically
>>>> proven fact, pretty much leaves them with a ruined
>>>> world and a curse
>>>> for us.
>>>> (Maybe by then they will have left this planet to
>>>> terraform Mars, and
>>>> mine asteroids (parent bodies of the meteorites we
>>>> love) for their
>>>> resources, all the while looking out into space or
>>>> up into a Martian
>>>> sky at a bright star that was the world we ruined.)
>>>> Steve Schoner.
>>>> #4470
>>>> [meteorite-list] Global Warming - Scientifically
>>>> proven or a farce
>>>> Michael Farmer meteoriteguy at yahoo.com
>>>> Sun Jun 10 13:25:59 EDT 2007
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>>>> Paul, ok, lest say you are the proud winner of that
>>>> bet! Bush got his way, America refused to do it's
>>>> part
>>>> and the oceans only raise 4 feet in the next 10
>>>> years.
>>>> I guess you had better go to Florida/New York
>>>> City/Boston, most of the Gulf Coast, and well, most
>>>> of
>>>> the Island nations in the Pacific. They will be
>>>> gone,
>>>> good job! Oh, and the Billionairs on Long Island and
>>>> Cape Cod had better sell their homes now, since a 4
>>>> foot rise in sealevel will wash them all away. What
>>>> will Dubya do without the family compound in
>>>> Kennebunkport?
>>>> I lived in Key West Florida. The highest point of
>>>> the
>>>> island is 6 feet. Most of the island is less than 3
>>>> feet above sea level, as is a very large part of
>>>> Florida. Kiss it goodbye, and trillions of $$$ of
>>>> land, homes, and a huge part of our nation.
>>>> Does that make it ok to ignore the melting glaciers,
>>>> ok to do what we are doing now and not even bother
>>>> making changes? That is SICK!
>>>> Unfortunately that is the mentality of a huge part
>>>> of
>>>> our nation today, all about me, my money, and today,
>>>> screw tomorrow, and I gues screw our children, and
>>>> grandchildren, they can learn to live in the crappy
>>>> world we created today to get "ours" right?
>>>> My kids (If I ever have any) will likely never see a
>>>> glacier in Switzerland, a Polar bear in northern
>>>> Canada, or a white Greenland. It is all going away.
>>>> sort of makes me not want to have kids, so they will
>>>> not have to suffer for our mistakes.
>>>> Michael Farmer
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