[meteorite-list] Search for first U.S. lunar meteorite

From: Martin Altmann <altmann_at_meteoritecentral.com>
Date: Tue, 24 Aug 2010 00:45:26 +0200
Message-ID: <002c01cb4314$e13820b0$a3a86210$_at_de>

That was common use in the academic society for centuries for unsolved
problems and is still use in some disciplines.
(e.g. the prize for solving the Poincar?-conjecture was 1 million $.)

>There are over 1000 members on the
>Meteorite list. If each person donated say a small $5 to the prize.

Nooo. It's the obligation of the scientific world.

(and think only, what the meteorite dealers are paying for taxes, what for a
museum you could fill with that money!)

Like it was the self-obligation of all famous meteoricists and curators of
the last two centuries, that meteorites must be found.
(See also later the recommendations for UNESCO)

A model could be - England has a good tradition in such things - that e.g.
Bevan et al. could gather some public money or from industrial sponsors for
the prize, making also the necessary publicity
and to start the race in Australia.

For finally getting Australia running again!

That would be great fun.

Best!
Martin

Chladni, Cohen, Ramdohr.. - my country always will stay free, yippie!

-----Urspr?ngliche Nachricht-----
Von: meteorite-list-bounces at meteoritecentral.com
[mailto:meteorite-list-bounces at meteoritecentral.com] Im Auftrag von
Meteorites USA
Gesendet: Dienstag, 24. August 2010 00:26
An: meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com
Betreff: Re: [meteorite-list] Search for first U.S. lunar meteorite

Hi Martin, The reward is a good idea. Jaime and I were talking about
something like a prize earlier today.

Perhaps something similar to the Google Lunar X Prize which will pay $10
Million to the first team to put a robot/rover on the Moon. Money is put
up by various sponsors, companies and donors for the prize. The first
team to accomplish the stated mission gets the is $10 Million prize.

Maybe this same model (on a smaller scale) could be applied to the first
USA Lunar meteorite discovery prize. Perhaps with dealers, enthusiasts
and others fronting the cash for the prize which could be split 50/50
between the Finder as cash prize and a University of choice as a grant
for equipment and/or for curriculum related to meteorite study.

"The USA Lunar Meteorite Prize" ;)

Maybe it would work if done right. There are over 1000 members on the
Meteorite list. If each person donated say a small $5 to the prize, then
we could offer $5000. If dealers and collectors got involved as sponsors
then they'd get the advertising exposure the prize would create, and
they may be able to donate as much as $100 or more each. There's more
than 100 dealers in the world. That's another $10,000 added to the
prize. The prize could be held in escrow/trust until someone finds a
verified USA Lunar meteorite (which could very well take years), then
it's announced through normal channels (Met Bull, Met Soc etc.)

$15,000 is a good motivator to find the first USA Lunar Meteorite. The
scientific achievement alone is worth it! And I'm sure other donors
might even donate more than $100 if they know at least 50% of the prize
would be donated to a University of choice. Which could be voted on by
meteorite community members, IMCA, Met Soc, etc.

What do you think?

Regards,
Eric



On 8/23/2010 2:56 PM, Martin Altmann wrote:
> When the metaliban, those medieval extremists, phrasemongers of culture
and
> heritage, enemies of the progress of scientific cognition, the lost
children
> of the meteorite family,
> will have closed each and every desert and each and every country under
the
> sun
> for meteorite finding,
>
> then, truly, o Rob, I promise you, that the first American lunaites
(plural)
> will be found.
>
> Because the flock of the just and the assiduous will find their last
meadow
> in the land of the free.
>
>
> What the above mentioned meteorite clowns always forget, when they greedy
> stitch their mantras in their pillows (a H5, W4 a year is our Kingdom of
> B... Heaven)
> The finding rate of planetaries is a function of experience, hunting
> conditions and first and foremost: the manhours spent.
>
> Skol!
>
> But maybe Sonny and you are faster :-)
> I keep my fingers crossed.
> Martin
>
> P.S. In former times it was more sporty. Do I hear that Greenwich
advertises
> a reward for the first Martian found in the Commonwealth?
>
> O tempora o mores...
>
> ;-)
>
>
> -----Urspr?ngliche Nachricht-----
> Von: meteorite-list-bounces at meteoritecentral.com
> [mailto:meteorite-list-bounces at meteoritecentral.com] Im Auftrag von
Matson,
> Robert D.
> Gesendet: Montag, 23. August 2010 22:59
> An: meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com
> Betreff: [meteorite-list] Search for first U.S. lunar meteorite
>
> Hi All,
>
> When the first U.S. lunar is found, my bet is that the finder will
> be either Sonny Clary or Jason Utas. Both have demonstrated the
> ability to find non-ordinary-chondrite meteorites -- for instance,
> Blue Eagle (R3-6) and Moapa Valley (CM1) by Sonny, and Superior
> Valley 014 (acapulcoite) by Jason.
>
> Another name I've seen come up lately with non-OCs is Bill
> Sajkowicz: Chocolate Mountains (ureilite), Cargo Muchacho
> Mountains (CO3), and Winterhaven (howardite). I find it remarkable
> that one person has found a ureilite, a howardite and a CO3, and
> yet I haven't found a record of any chondritic finds by him. This
> is statistically next to impossible -- Bill must have found a LOT
> of chondrites to have found these three.
>
> --Rob
>
> -----Original Message-----
>
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