[meteorite-list] Cat Mountain on EBay
From: Regine Petersen <fips_bruno_at_meteoritecentral.com>
Date: Sat, 20 Aug 2011 16:54:14 +0100 (BST)
I see. Since there is no NWA or SaU without a number and the Cat Mountain area is not a vast desert either the numbers don't seem to make sense to me. But in the end I might care about it as much as the rocks do...
--- cdtucson at cox.net <cdtucson at cox.net> schrieb am Sa, 20.8.2011:
> Von: cdtucson at cox.net <cdtucson at cox.net>
> Betreff: Re: [meteorite-list] Cat Mountain on EBay
> An: "Regine Petersen" <fips_bruno at yahoo.de>, meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com, wahlperry at aol.com
> Datum: Samstag, 20. August, 2011 16:02 Uhr
> To be clear. I will answer your questions in ALL CAPS
> below? after each question.
> ---- Regine Petersen <fips_bruno at yahoo.de>
> > Hi Sonny and list,
> can someone clarify some things for me? I find it a bit
> confusing, so excuse me if I ask obvious questions. These
> are the facts as far as I have understood them:
> Apart from the first Cat Mountain find there was Snyder
> Hill, which was not part of the same fall and only found
> while looking for further Cat Mountain pieces.
> THIS IS CORRECT. IT HAS NOT BEEN LINKED TO CAT MT BUT, THEY
> ARE THE SAME CLASSIFICATION OF L5 WHICH IN AND OF ITSELF
> SEEMS A BIT COINCIDENTAL. ALTHOUGH THEY LOOK NOTHING ALIKE.
> There was another small Cat Mountain found by Robert Haag
> which didn't get classified.
> TECHNICALLY IT WAS A PECAN SIZED PIECE FOUND DURING THE
> SEARCH BACK IN 1995 AND? ALSO FOUND BY THE SAME GROUP
> THAT FOUND SNYDER HILL BUT WAS IMMEDIATELY SOLD TO ROBERT
> AND HE NEVER DID GET IT CLASSIFIED.
> Now hunters were searching the Snyder Hill site and found
> two more Cat Mountains which are now sold on eBay.
> NO. TWO MORE PIECES HAVE BEEN FOUND BUT ONLY PART OF ONE OF
> THEM HAS BEEN SOLD ON EBAY TO RUBEN. THE PIECE SOLD ON EBAY
> TO RUBEN? WEIGHED 61 GRAMS AND WAS PART OF THE RECENT
> 107 GRAM FIND. THE OTHER 170 GRAM FIND REMAINS AVAILABLE FOR
> SALE BY COUNT DEIRO.
> Who found the rocks, Count Deiro or the hunters who have
> also found the Snyder Hill piece?
> THE COUNT IS NOT SAYING WHO FOUND THE SECOND ONE BUT THE
> FIRST WAS FOUND BY THE SAME FELLOW (DAVE JOHNSON) WHO FOUND
> THE SNYDER HILL AND THE ONE SOLD TO ROBERT HAAG..
> Who is selling them? And why was the third rock which was
> found designated 001?
> THE SECOND ROCK WAS THE ONE DESIGNATED 001 AND THE THIRD
> ONE WHICH IS STILL BEING OFFERED BY THE COUNT IS 002. IT
> WEIGHS 164.5 GRAMS
> The second one hasn't been classified, but wouldn't the
> original find get the first number?
> NO. THE ORIGINAL FIND GETS THE NAME. TECHNICALLY THE
> FOLLOWING FINDS GET THE SAME NAME WITH SEQUENTIAL NUMBERS
> AFTER THE NAME BUT THIS IS THE CONFUSING PART. I THOUGHT
> THEY ONLY GOT DIFFERENT NUMBERS IF THEY WERE FOUND TO BE A
> DIFFERENT CLASSIFICATION. THE REASON I AM CONFUSED IS THAT
> SNYDER HILL SEEMS LIKE IT SHOULD HAVE BEEN CALLED CAT MT.
> 001 AS IT WAS FOUND IN THE CAT MT STREWNFIELD BUT IT GOT A
> SEPARATE NAME.
> SO, MY QUESTION IS ; WHICH IS THE CORRECT WAY TO NAME THESE
> NOW FIVE METEORITES? THERE IS CAT MT THE ORIGINAL AND?
> MAIN MASS. AND THREE OTHER RELATED ROCKS ONE PECAN SIZE ROCK
> SOLD TO HAAG. ONE 107 GRAM ROCK PART OF WHICH WAS SOLD TO
> RUBEN AND THE LAST ONE OF 170 GRAMS THE COUNT IS SELLING
> 164.5 GRAMS OF NOW. AND THERE IS SNYDER HILL..
> IS THERE A TRUE OFFICIAL WAY TO DO THIS?
> Pretty amazing finds :-)
> --- wahlperry at aol.com
> <wahlperry at aol.com>
> schrieb am Fr, 19.8.2011:
> > Von: wahlperry at aol.com
> <wahlperry at aol.com>
> > Betreff: Re: [meteorite-list] Cat Mountain on Ebay
> > An: cdtucson at cox.net,
> meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com
> > Datum: Freitag, 19. August, 2011 16:29 Uhr
> > Hi Carl,
> > These are truly amazing finds. This is a great example
> > everyone that if one meteorite is found return and
> check for
> > more pieces. Who knows, you may find something from a
> > different fall.? The number one key is to spend time
> > the field and to have fun!
> > Sonny
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: cdtucson <cdtucson at cox.net>
> > To: meteorite-list <meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com>;
> > wahlperry <wahlperry at aol.com>
> > Sent: Fri, Aug 19, 2011 3:00 am
> > Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Cat Mountain on Ebay
> > Sonny,This is interesting because the seller and
> finder are
> > also the original finders of Snyder Hill back in 1995.
> > also found a pecan sized cat MT I was never aware of
> > Bob Haag never got added to the official record.I also
> > no idea they were the finders of this new Cat MT find
> > now but, I actually took them to the Cat MT
> strewnfield back
> > in 1995 and I was with them when they originally
> > Snyder Hill.It was interesting because Mike Holden
> > Jerome Johnson? found the first half of Snyder Hill
> > the very next day Dave found the other half on the
> > side of the hill. It seems it had struck the hill and
> > half went it's own direction. They were later reunited
> > they fit perfectly back together.Bob Haag has said it
> > million times. "Go back and search where meteorites
> > been found before". It worked again. I talked to Dave
> > tonight for the first time since 1995 and he told me
> he had
> > not ever been back since his first find until this
> > March when he found this latest Cat MT. 001. This
> story has
> > another interesting twist to it. Back then everyone
> > worried about ownership. For this reason everyone was
> > to mention find locations. There was no Met-list to
> > questions. Only rumors. Long story short? the true
> > location of Snyder Hill was eventually correctly
> > and named appropriately. Tonight Dave said he went
> back to
> > the hill because that is the only place he had ever
> found a
> > meteorite and low and behold he found another of the
> > grail of all impact melt breccias. A new Cat MT
> itself. He
> > says he sold it? to Ruben for a pile of money and
> > nice meteorites were thrown in on the deal. So, looks
> > Dave finds meteorites every time he hunts. Even if
> they were
> > 16 years apart. Great job Dave.Carl--? ? ?
> > ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?
> > ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?
> > ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?
> > ? ? ???"Democracy is two wolves and
> > a lamb voting on what to have for dinner. Liberty is
> > well-armed lamb contesting the vote".? ? ---- wahlperry at aol.com
> > wrote: > Hi List,> > Cat Mountain for sale
> > Ebay.> > http://cgi.ebay.com/Cat-Mountian-meteorite-001-/330599015532?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item4cf93ca46c>
> > > > >
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