[meteorite-list] Lovina: most likely not a meteorite

From: Adam Hupe <raremeteorites_at_meteoritecentral.com>
Date: Tue, 24 May 2011 20:32:07 -0700 (PDT)
Message-ID: <478111.70027.qm_at_web30703.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

I was once forwarded a suspected meteorite by a German friend that was found by
a King on a tiny atoll in an island nation. It was very much different than all
of the surrounding material is the reason he picked it up to begin with. We
deduced that it was probably a ballast stone. It was a heavy dense stone that
reminds me of Lovina. Heavy rocks and slag were loaded as ballast in ships'
hulls. The ship wrecks on the beach, then weathers away and all that is left is
a pile of dense ballast stones and slag that have no relationship with their
surroundings.

My best guess is that Lovina is an industrial byproduct (slag) used as ballast
and left behind on a beach.

It seems at least plausible since it is not a meteorite.

Best Regards,

Adam


    



----- Original Message ----
From: Richard Montgomery <rickmont at earthlink.net>
To: Count Deiro <countdeiro at earthlink.net>; Darryl Pitt <darryl at dof3.com>;
Meteorite-list List <meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com>
Cc: Baiyu <baiyu4u at gmail.com>
Sent: Tue, May 24, 2011 8:03:07 PM
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Lovina: most likely not a meteorite

Lovina remains a high priority for me!

List, please correct me, since I'm no doubt way off base here, but wasn't the
original mass's physical appearance attributed in part to a saline submersion
refractory? It was my first red-flag.

Still, Lovina is THE most amazing structure, whether or not terrestrial. (I
have a prominent empty spot on my wrong-shelf dedicated to Lovina, along side a
mostly siderite vs.olivine Shirkowski, and then a translucent olivine
Shir-slice; and a Mendota-wrong.)

These curious query-wrongs are awesome!!!

-Richard Montgomery

----- Original Message ----- From: "Count Deiro" <countdeiro at earthlink.net>
To: "Darryl Pitt" <darryl at dof3.com>; "Meteorite-list List"
<meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com>
Cc: "Baiyu" <baiyu4u at gmail.com>
Sent: Tuesday, May 24, 2011 7:52 PM
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Lovina: most likely not a meteorite


> I know how disappointed you must be, Darryl. You spent a great deal of blood
>and treasure directing and paying for the the analysis of this still
>extraordinary apecimen. The professionalism and honesty of your efforts to find
>the truth of Lovinia is apparent to all. The piece sure did capture the
>imagination. I was hoping for a different outcome, so I could have a piece.
>
> Best personal regards,
>
> Guido
>
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> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Darryl Pitt <darryl at dof3.com>
>> Sent: May 24, 2011 6:22 PM
>> To: Meteorite-list List <meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com>
>> Cc: Baiyu <baiyu4u at gmail.com>
>> Subject: [meteorite-list] Lovina: most likely not a meteorite
>>
>>
>>
>> Greetings:
>>
>> I just received a preliminary abstract on Lovina from Kuni Nishiizumi of UC
>>Berkeley's Space Sciences Laboratory. Kuni, the abstract's lead author,
>>concluded it is unlikely Lovina is a meteorite. The markers analyzed were
>>beryllium and chlorine concentrations and the paucity of cosmogenic
>>radionuclides (only Gibeon and Nantan show less). One more round of tests will
>>occur and further conclusions will be drawn from the same. The abstract entitled
>>"Lovina: is this a Meteorite?" will appear in the MAPS volume associated with
>>the 74th Annual Meteoritical Society Meeting this coming August.
>>
>> It has been suggested by some diehards that the bubbling evident in the Lovina
>>mass could have been the result of smelting, and that the lack of cosmogenic
>>radiation could be explained by Lovina having been near the center of a much
>>larger mass---as we know Lovina originated from at least a somewhat larger mass
>>for the ziggurat structures to have formed. However, in the spirit of embracing
>>the most likely of explanations, it seems compelling to conclude that the most
>>likely explanation for an expanding host of anomalies is Lovina's terrestrial
>>origin.
>>
>> Accordingly, I've decided to no longer offer Lovina as a meteorite and have
>>asked my webmaster to take down references to the same on Macovich.com at her
>>earliest possible convenience.
>>
>>
>> All best / Darryl
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